I Hate Cops

[blunttech]

marianno, im sorry you got worked over but i bet this could have been avoided.
your description sounds factual and honest.

"I didnt feel it was necessary to stop since I was not in violation of any law"

bottom line is if the cops tell you to stop you are required to whether youre on private property or not.

"Since I wasnt under arrest for any charge I refused to put my hands behind my back."

this is where it all went south.

a lot of cops are on power trips but if you comply and do as they ask youre not going to get fucked with.
i seriously doubt youll get anywhere with this. you know as well as i do this shit happens everyday. and courts have seen millions or sworn statements from the victims buddies claiming total innocence.
the cops will claim you resisted arrest and they will get the benefit of the doubt. its just the way it works.
again, sorry you got worked over and sprayed

[JJe30]

Wow...that's some shit right there. Hope all goes well for you.

[CleanAzzE30z]

hahah.. I work in Washington. Im not looking for any money, Im only looking to not have these charges. Thats all. Likely, from what I hear, Ill threaten a lawsuit and they will offer to drop the charges. Thats all I want. I detest those people who look for excuses to sue. Im not like that. I go on the honor system.

Mariano

[Jscotty]

It sounds like the city owes you a couple million for false arrest. You can even tell them that you worked for me and I fired you over this incident to make your case seem more dramatic.

[CleanAzzE30z]

OK... Ive been talking to a few lawyers and I know a few locals who are incensed that their local police did this. Im getting signed statements from all the 7 witnesses and sending them to my lawyer. I am not backing down. I walked out of the car, they did not have any lights on, they didnt say anything until I was almost to the door. I didnt feel it was necessary to stop since I was not in violation of any law and the WHOLE driveway and the patio is private property. Then I stopped just short of the door and asked what we were being stopped for and or what was the charge. They refused to answer. Then he grabbed my arm very hard. Throughout I was asking politely (with no cussing whatsoever) what was the charge. No answer. Since I wasnt under arrest for any charge I refused to put my hands behind my back. Had they told me what the reason was for fabricating this arrest I would have happily put my arms behind my back. I suppose in their eyes, they can cuff you and arrest you, but not tell you the charge. There was no arrest to resist. They then proceeded to try and trip me which led to them dragging me out and slamming onto Mikes car twice and with me already subdued they went to town with the pepper spray. When I was in custody and I was being interviewed, I was calm, polite, articulate to every and all officers that I spoke to. SHowing that if one treats me with respect, I will reciprocate. The point is this, fellas. Ive been through everything, and the times I SHOULD have been locked up for cussing at cops and telling them to fuck themselves and instigating stuff, nothing happened. I literally did nothing to provoke them and wasnt violating any law, looking suspicious, hiding anything. I was wearing the shoes I always wear (Koston ES's), A Bimmerfest shirt of all things, and some shorts with skater glasses on my head. But thats besides the point or else now were heading into racial profiling territory. I had my friend drive specifically to be on the correct side of the law. I did not run into the house, I calmly started walking towards the door. I was going to be off probation in August, havent been arrested since 2003, I have paid ALL my fines, completed ALL programs, done ALL community service and have no outstanding warrants or court dates. I was looking forward to being free and clear of legal obligations for thge first time since I was 17. Now this...... Im not taking this lying down.


Mariano

[Jscotty]

come on man there isn't some master supercomputer somewhere that the free masons run that collects data on you and conspires to ruin your life after a simple traffic stop.

Yeah.. if that were the case we would all be ruined. But I had given this cop addresses and phone numbers and everything else short of a report on my whereabouts for the last 36 hours. My guess is that he started investigating me and telling everyone that I was suspected of drug trafficking and calling those people to see if they knew anything. This guy even came to my door a couple of times but I wouldn't answer. So my guess is that he was either over zelous or he really thought he had a live one.

[32.5i]

To people saying they will call in and complain; you were not there, your opinion will not matter.

To the people involved, good luck sorting this out.

[hugh jass]

It really was.. I was not charged with ANYTHING and I am thankful that I was able to explain it all to the dean of my school but my employer and my landlord didn't want anything else to do with me after talking to the cop. I was able to get another place and getting another job was not that big of a deal but that could have been devistating to someone else.

come on man there isn't some master supercomputer somewhere that the free masons run that collects data on you and conspires to ruin your life after a simple traffic stop.

[MR 325]

I have not read this whole thread and really don't feel like adding much...

I will say that the Sheriff's Department was very unprofessional and downright RUDE. This was all over nothing and turned in to a big power trip. Mariano was taken in and cited for resisting an arrest that was non existent.

I don't care who agrees with us but the law WAS wrong this time.

Matt

[blunttech]

It really was.. I was not charged with ANYTHING and I am thankful that I was able to explain it all to the dean of my school but my employer and my landlord didn't want anything else to do with me after talking to the cop. I was able to get another place and getting another job was not that big of a deal but that could have been devistating to someone else.

so youre saying after a simple traffic stop this cop got you fired from your job, evicted from your apartment and thrown out of school and you didnt receive as much as a citation>?? ive heard some bullshit in my life and a lot of it right here on this board. if i knew how to post that flagpole with the BS flag raising up it i would but i dont.

[Jscotty]

hahaha this is a fucking joke right?

It really was.. I was not charged with ANYTHING and I am thankful that I was able to explain it all to the dean of my school but my employer and my landlord didn't want anything else to do with me after talking to the cop. I was able to get another place and getting another job was not that big of a deal but that could have been devistating to someone else.

[blunttech]

True, there are bad people in every profession, however, being bad and doing bad things are less excuseable when their misdeeds can cause someone's life to be turned completely upside down.

Where as if the cashier in walmart takes my $100 and mistakes it for a $10 and insists I only gave her $10, then it costs me a little bit of time, frustration, and money if they end up kicking me out of the store. BUT if a police officer is abusing his power or he is way out of line when it comes to enforcing the law, as wrong as he is, you are still considered a criminal if he accuses you of a crime. And if you ignore the officer and go on about your business because you know he is just being a total jerk, then it becomes an issue where YOU are breaking the law.

Cops should be held to a higher standard and we should be less tolerant of their mistakes. Their level of power and authority is harmful if it is misused, whether mistakenly or purposely. One time I got lost and I was driving through a really bad neighborhood. So I ended up turning around to go back the same way I came. I drove about a half mile and there were 2 cars blocking the street because the drivers of each car apparently knew each other and they were sitting in the middle of the street facing opposite directions window-to-window talking. So I sit and wait for one of them to notice that I was behind them. Being that its only the 3 of us out there, I decide to back up to give myself enough room to drive around them. Then all of a sudden they realize that I am there so they start to manuver their cars over to the side of the road and for about 30 seconds, its like an acrobatic circus of these cars attempting to negotiate their way around each other.

So we finally get out of each other's way and I start back down the road again. Here comes this cop from the other direction and he gives me this dirty look as he passes me and then immediately makes a U-Turn and turns on his lights. So when he walks up to my car, he only asks for my license and then asks me if I am buying or selling drugs. I told the officer that I was in the neighborhood minding my own business. Apparently the cop was staking out the area because from his vantage point, it appeared to him that I was associated with those other 2 guys doing a drug transaction.

The whole time that this cop is interrogating me, he has a very angry and nasty demeanor. He never ran my tags or my license nor did he search my car but he took down all of my information, asked me where I worked, (which by this time I wanted to prove that I had a job and I did not sell drugs for a living.) and other odds and ends. And then before he let me go he warned me that he would be keeping his eye on me so I better not get caught. This was on a Wednesday- By Friday, I was fired from my job, evicted from my apartment, and the trade school that I was going to at the time kicked me out of their program and told me that I could return on academic probation provided that I submitted to a drug test and entered drug counseling.

At that point in my life I didn't even hang around people who used or sold drugs let alone not ever having had used drugs myself. But the cop being a jerk affected my livelyhood.

hahaha this is a fucking joke right?

[Jscotty]

True, there are bad people in every profession, however, being bad and doing bad things are less excuseable when their misdeeds can cause someone's life to be turned completely upside down.

Where as if the cashier in walmart takes my $100 and mistakes it for a $10 and insists I only gave her $10, then it costs me a little bit of time, frustration, and money if they end up kicking me out of the store. BUT if a police officer is abusing his power or he is way out of line when it comes to enforcing the law, as wrong as he is, you are still considered a criminal if he accuses you of a crime. And if you ignore the officer and go on about your business because you know he is just being a total jerk, then it becomes an issue where YOU are breaking the law.

Cops should be held to a higher standard and we should be less tolerant of their mistakes. Their level of power and authority is harmful if it is misused, whether mistakenly or purposely. One time I got lost and I was driving through a really bad neighborhood. So I ended up turning around to go back the same way I came. I drove about a half mile and there were 2 cars blocking the street because the drivers of each car apparently knew each other and they were sitting in the middle of the street facing opposite directions window-to-window talking. So I sit and wait for one of them to notice that I was behind them. Being that its only the 3 of us out there, I decide to back up to give myself enough room to drive around them. Then all of a sudden they realize that I am there so they start to manuver their cars over to the side of the road and for about 30 seconds, its like an acrobatic circus of these cars attempting to negotiate their way around each other.

So we finally get out of each other's way and I start back down the road again. Here comes this cop from the other direction and he gives me this dirty look as he passes me and then immediately makes a U-Turn and turns on his lights. So when he walks up to my car, he only asks for my license and then asks me if I am buying or selling drugs. I told the officer that I was in the neighborhood minding my own business. Apparently the cop was staking out the area because from his vantage point, it appeared to him that I was associated with those other 2 guys doing a drug transaction.

The whole time that this cop is interrogating me, he has a very angry and nasty demeanor. He never ran my tags or my license nor did he search my car but he took down all of my information, asked me where I worked, (which by this time I wanted to prove that I had a job and I did not sell drugs for a living.) and other odds and ends. And then before he let me go he warned me that he would be keeping his eye on me so I better not get caught. This was on a Wednesday- By Friday, I was fired from my job, evicted from my apartment, and the trade school that I was going to at the time kicked me out of their program and told me that I could return on academic probation provided that I submitted to a drug test and entered drug counseling.

At that point in my life I didn't even hang around people who used or sold drugs let alone not ever having had used drugs myself. But the cop being a jerk affected my livelyhood.

[euroshark]

Where's the video?

[TopOfTheLine89]

hey dipshit, im not 100% pro cop. there are bad cops just like there are bad teachers.politicians, and even in your line of work there are bad fry cooks.

How the hell did you know I was a fry cook?