If it aint Boeing, I aint going

i heart boeing

Me too. I flew over their factory in Everett the other day and it is just fucking huge. The largest building on Earth (by volume).

[uofom3]

i heart boeing

How do production delays translate into the A380 being a "hunk of shit"? Planes fly once they are a finished product. Once they begin to fly they are judged according to many a factors. I think it would be fair to allow the finished product to begin its career before we judge it. Yes, cost of production and such is a huge factor but that's for Airbus to worry about and still doesn't make the plane inferior. It would simply make those carrying out her production and design inferior.

The 787 will actually be competing with Airbus' A350 (currently under dev). However, judging by the production and delivery problems they have had and the fact that for a while they errouneously considered the 787 a non-threat to it's A330, I think Boeing will be ahead for quite some time. The 777 is by far my favorite plane to fly one. At least with American. TV Monitors on the back of every seat in coach = more convenient long-haul flights.

It's a hunk of shit because of the numerous wiring and weight related problems it has had. I won't even go into all the trash I have heard about Airbus build quality. The damn plane doesn't even have a yoke. The plane itself is not needed. Boeing had already ruled out a full double decker airplane a long time ago. They were smart enough to forsee a a change from large capacity, long haul flights to small capacity, direct flights.

I understand that the A380 and 787 are completely different airplanes and are not direct competitors. Boeing and Airbus are competitors however and they both have very different visions for the future of commercial aviation.

[atomic]

aerospace technology is what brings ways to introduce new technology in other fields of business. Look at the high end mtn and road bike industry. They would not be doing the crazy business they are without the aerospace titaniums and carbon fibers they are using today. Hell a friend of mine who runs the engineering department at one of the worlds premier highend bike manufactures is even making parts for NASA for the new mars rover that is going to mars around 2015

[Intense]

Having worked on the Dreamliner program and currently working for the company that makes all their CAD/CAM/PLM software, I can tell you that it's some serious shit to develop an airplane in the short time they did.

It was nearly fully digitally tested before the FAA will even see it.

We're (Dassault) certainly rooting for it's success

[matte30is]

Fuck Scarebus.....

[Jon325i]

600? Holy balls.

Yep - pretty insane stuff - carriers are lining up from all over the world for this new aircraft. The order book is so full now that if you called up Boeing and ordered your own, you wouldn't be able to take delivery for eight years (2015). If all their testing goes smoothly, I'd say Boeing hit a grand slam with this plane. Seriously cool stuff.

And as for the 'shortage' in carbon fiber composites, I see Boeings' use of this material as a benefit for the masses in the long term. Because of the large quantity that's going to be needed, various techniques and technologies are likely to be developed which will make manufacturing and applying this material more cost effective down the road.

Jon

[MR 325]

I saw this on the news aswell, looks amazing!

[Maluco]

Any plane that has a multiple stall restroom gets high marks in my book!

Any plane who's 1,2,3 or however many stalls doesn't end up like the one below gets the HIGHEST mark in my book.

[Jscotty]

Any plane that has a multiple stall restroom gets high marks in my book!

[Maluco]

Airbus is pretty much shitting their pants right now. The A380 is a cool concept but its just a hunk of shit. It has been having problem after problem and their customers have been dropping like flys. Boeing has it all right with the 787.

How do production delays translate into the A380 being a "hunk of shit"? Planes fly once they are a finished product. Once they begin to fly they are judged according to many a factors. I think it would be fair to allow the finished product to begin its career before we judge it. Yes, cost of production and such is a huge factor but that's for Airbus to worry about and still doesn't make the plane inferior. It would simply make those carrying out her production and design inferior.

The 787 will actually be competing with Airbus' A350 (currently under dev). However, judging by the production and delivery problems they have had and the fact that for a while they errouneously considered the 787 a non-threat to it's A330, I think Boeing will be ahead for quite some time. The 777 is by far my favorite plane to fly one. At least with American. TV Monitors on the back of every seat in coach = more convenient long-haul flights.

[hugh jass]

Goddamn airplanes making carbon fiber expensive...

why use carbon fiber when you can use pewter instead?

pewter.......the right material for the job!

[AndrewBird]

Goddamn airplanes making carbon fiber expensive...

[Sean]

HELL YES! GO Boeing! Hahaa...boooya.

I've been hearing that this is the decade that Airbus effectively got caught with their pants down.

I heard that this thing wasn't going together very well, there was a 3" jog/mismatch in the fuslage for a bit since so many parts are outsourced and only meet at the assembly line.

Good to see Boeing got this thing ironed out, middle class jobs are a fading memory here in the PNW if we lost them and all vendors to the Kansas plant.

Airbus is pretty much shitting their pants right now. The A380 is a cool concept but its just a hunk of shit. It has been having problem after problem and their customers have been dropping like flys. Boeing has it all right with the 787.