College Football

[jflip2002]

So youre comparing USC to Hawaii, thats a LITTLE different lol. Hawaii doesnt even have Brennan anymore, so thats a totally different team Florida beat.

Did I say the SEC isnt the most challenging ever? "USC may be as fast as GA, but if there is a matchup this year, GA will win". You give no support. I hate USC, and I really dislike SEC Hillbilly elitists.... but USC would pound Georgia. Shit, OSU would be Georgia, if OSU had Beanie Wells running the ball.

But who needs all these hypotheticals? Georgia WILL NOT go undefeated, USC probably will. USC will be in the championship game, Georgia will not. Maybe if Georgia is lucky, they can play OSU in a bowl game, in which theyd get stomped. Especially if Terrell Pryor (who should be at Michigan) starts to play like he can.

PS: Michigan may suck, but at least we have Michael Phelps.

[delatlanta1281]

Strength of Schedule is not as large of a factor as it previously was. So it really doesnt matter how shitty your oponents are. Your preseason rank, and your record are big deals to the BCS. Otherwise BSU woulda played for the title when they beat OU in the Fiesta Bowl (prior to that bowl, obviously).

Wait a sec, if that is true, why is GA ranked third now when they started out 1st and are undefeated????

[jflip2002]

Because they arent nearly as impressive as USC, apparently. Preseason rank is huge... But USC was only ranked 3rd. Its not like they jumped from #20. What Georgia being ranked #3 means, is they clearly arent the best team in the nation. Also, keep in mind, these rankings are all coaches polls, NOT BCS rankings yet.

[delatlanta1281]

So youre comparing USC to Hawaii, thats a LITTLE different lol. Hawaii doesnt even have Brennan anymore, so thats a totally different team Florida beat.

Did I say the SEC isnt the most challenging ever? "USC may be as fast as GA, but if there is a matchup this year, GA will win". You give no support. I hate USC, and I really dislike SEC Hillbilly elitists.... but USC would pound Georgia. Shit, OSU would be Georgia, if OSU had Beanie Wells running the ball.

But who needs all these hypotheticals? Georgia WILL NOT go undefeated, USC probably will. USC will be in the championship game, Georgia will not. Maybe if Georgia is lucky, they can play OSU in a bowl game, in which theyd get stomped. Especially if Terrell Pryor (who should be at Michigan) starts to play like he can.

PS: Michigan may suck, but at least we have Michael Phelps.

Definitely not comparing the two, just trying to call attention to the hype that the media puts on teams that go undefeated with weak schedules. It will be funny to see what USC does in a couple of years now that GA is playing a PAC10 team during regular season. I doubt that will fit an SEC team into their precious schedule for fear of a loss. The problem with GA not going undefeated is this: if they have one loss, they won't play for 1st or 3rd. If OSU or USC has one loss, they will. It's always been that way.

[jflip2002]

In a couple years, you think Georgia will be relevant? They were at the end of this year, and the beginning of this year. They already dont matter to people, thus the slipping to #3. USC and OSU SHOULDNT face tough regular season oponents, I already discussed that. What they do gets them to the championship games, so why not? They dont lose, and they make money for their schools. It's what this is all about, for those related to the schools. If you have an affiliation with Georgia, youd understand what USC and OSU are doing, and would want to replicate that. We are just spectators, so we want to see the better games for our pleasure.

I have a question: What was the last impact Georgia had on the college football scene?

[delatlanta1281]

David Green winningist record in NCAA history.

http://www.footballspeakers.com/h/index.php?name=David-Greene&pid=21

If you don't realize this you may want to re-evaluate your status as a college football "spectator".
Read that. Then get back to me. I have more incredible stats about the 3rd best team in the nation as far as this BS ranking goes.
Let's be honest, I am all for teams making money, GA makes a ton for it's alum. But the thing is, I live in a conference where losses are inevitable. Teams down here do not blow each other out, they can't set up easy conference schedules in order to make money and keep their alums happy. Georgia alums are more than happy with what the dogs have done with Richt at the helm, trust me I know. As far as the Hillbilly comment goes, you're a Mich. fan, I wouldn't start throwing stones. As far as your undefeated season goes, sorry man you will have to wait.
If Ga ends up playing Mich in a bowl game I would be interested to see the outcome, and I would be interested to watch you watch the game.

[delatlanta1281]

because they arent nearly as impressive as usc, apparently. Preseason rank is huge... But usc was only ranked 3rd. Its not like they jumped from #20. What georgia being ranked #3 means, is they clearly arent the best team in the nation. Also, keep in mind, these rankings are all coaches polls, not bcs rankings yet.

usc has played two games.

[DSP74]

Strength of Schedule is not as large of a factor as it previously was. So it really doesnt matter how shitty your oponents are. Your preseason rank, and your record are big deals to the BCS. Otherwise BSU woulda played for the title when they beat OU in the Fiesta Bowl (prior to that bowl, obviously).

Actually the BCS rankings are all about strength of schedule. There are other teams out there that will make the championship game with 1 loss OVER USC with NO losses. Georgia is much more likely to make the championship game with one loss to say Florida, (floriday loses to LSU, who also loses to georgia), and then Oklahoma, or Mizzou runs the schedule.

Woila you have a championship game that includes an SEC team with 1 loss and an undefeated team that ISN'T USC.


But I'd like to just by pass all the BS and see Oregon, or ASU beat USC. Better yet see ND beat USC, and go undefeated, and play OSU in a bowl game.

OSU-the most overrated team in college football 4 years running.

[jflip2002]

Call BS all you want, look at the BCS equation. SOS isnt such a determining factor, like it once was. OSU is the most overrated school for the past 4 years.... but theyve also probably made the most money due to it. So who is laughing? Im a Michigan fan, and Id rather have my team overrated, than irrelevant.

[delatlanta1281]

That would be nice, MIZZ is looking pretty mean.

Flipp, you are a strange bird. I didn't realize that OSU's financial future rode on their football's moneymaking abilities... If it does, why do teams like Vandy and Penn State exist? What good is a college football team if almost everyone thinks they are overrated? You sit here and defend two teams by saying you agree with them copping out due to revenue?
Shit.. I will take my "hillbilly sec" attitude and honor of challenging harder teams. My school makes more than enough money without copping out to a weak schedule.It's amazing how they do it too, an envelope comes to my house twice a year, and my wife and I put money into it.... novel concept, I know.

[jflip2002]

You will take those harder games, the more difficult SEC schedule, go for it. Show me where I said that OSU's financial future depended SOLELY on their football program. It certainly doesnt hurt though, getting the few million dollars (not sure of the exact amount) the BCS championship APPEARANCE earns you. You dont even have to win, just show up and collect your money. Those two schools are not stupid, they know what works.

As a fan, Id love to see these schools going head to head against other top schools, ever week. Just like the SEC does. If you step away from looking at it as a fan, and look at it realistically (economically), how it really matters, their schedules make the most sense. And for the record, USC just played OSU OUT OF CONFERENCE. They didnt have to play that game. USC does schedule tough opponents, to their credit.

How many championship games have they been to in the last decade? How many has YOUR team been to in the last decade? Hopefully you guys will play in the "Honor Bowl" this year, because you sure as hell wont be in the championship game. Up your donations to the school as well, because they're going to need TONS of donations to make up for their lack of meaningful bowl games.

[delatlanta1281]

You know exactly why sec teams don't go to natl championship games often. I for one am not impressed with the system and after reading your thoughts have to believe that you aren't either. I don't look at sporting events like an economist... I look at them as a fan, as I was raised. If I looked at my favorite teams like that, I would be a Yankees, Cowboys, Lakers, USC, Duke, Man United (soon to be Man City BTW) fan. Instead I am A Braves, Falcons, GA, Duke, Chelsea fan. See how it works? If you look at sports the way you say you do the first teams I stated should be you teams. Stop playing the make money card and start accepting the fact that certian teams are overrated and college politics play a huge part of the rankings. Put a play off system in place and let'er rip. Watch what happens to those precious teams that are in the top 5 every year. They will fall. They won't make the money, and they will start playing football instead of tiptoeing around the season knowing they are going to be ranked the same every year.
You think the athletes care about how much money their school makes? You actually think it's fair to cut out teams like Auburn 4 years ago who were deemed un worthy for no reason??? I can't stand Auburn, but I will admit that it was a travesty they didn't go to the national championship.

[jflip2002]

OSU is the most overrated school over the past 4 years. And I admitted that. But I also justified their scheduling. Fans dont make the schedules, the big wigs do, and I just gave their reasoning. So their schedules, in THEIR eyes are great, and couldnt be any better.

A playoff would be AWESOME. For the good schools who get left out yearly, itd be the best thing ever. But like you said, the politics take over college football. They WANT these big time schools to be in the championship game year in and year out. Why would they want Boise State Vs. BYU? Theyre after money. Which is why a playoff will never happen, even though it is more games, thus potential for more revenue.

BTW, the Yankees lost money last year, as well as this year. Knicks and Mavs have the highest pay roll, also. But Im an Eagles, Tigers, Magic, U of M, Flyers fan.

[delatlanta1281]

The yanks showed what happens when you lose money I guess.
Yeah, playoff system FTMFW, not possible, but as an SEC fan I will keep hollering and continue to go unnoticed. Hopefully (like Florida) Ga will do it this year giving more truth to the fact that the system is flawed.

[DSP74]

OSU is the most overrated school over the past 4 years. And I admitted that. But I also justified their scheduling. Fans dont make the schedules, the big wigs do, and I just gave their reasoning. So their schedules, in THEIR eyes are great, and couldnt be any better.

A playoff would be AWESOME. For the good schools who get left out yearly, itd be the best thing ever. But like you said, the politics take over college football. They WANT these big time schools to be in the championship game year in and year out. Why would they want Boise State Vs. BYU? Theyre after money. Which is why a playoff will never happen, even though it is more games, thus potential for more revenue.

BTW, the Yankees lost money last year, as well as this year. Knicks and Mavs have the highest pay roll, also. But Im an Eagles, Tigers, Magic, U of M, Flyers fan.

Your avatar says your from CA. What gives on the favorites.......

I'm an ND football fan, used to be an IU basketball fan, and since I was a Boston Celtics fan when I was a little kid I guess I can claim them. I hate pro basketball though.......Don't really have a favorite Pro Football team.

When you no longer have ANY favorites it removes the let down that comes when a favorite loses, and makes sports so much more enjoyable.