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  • GoKart
    Banned
    • Jan 2008
    • 136

    #226
    Originally posted by MattE30
    Nobody else has got caught. I'm sure this wasn't an isolated case.
    Absolutely.

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    • jflip2002
      R3V Elite
      • Sep 2006
      • 4377

      #227
      There are different things you can do to get an upperhand, and there is cheating. Opening doors for wind, whatever. Reading signals that come in from the sidelines, whatever. But video taping after youve been warned already, and still doing it? Thats another ball game. You dont get fined $500k and a first rounder for any of the offenses except for the taping.
      Originally posted by blunt
      i would jerk larry king off while tonging jflips ass if h0lmes would blow his head off

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      • joshh
        R3V OG
        • Aug 2004
        • 6195

        #228
        Originally posted by Coco Savage
        by the people who hate them, not officially by the respective sports they play. ;)

        Really, so you think any player in MLB that doesn't do steroids is either ok with other players doing steroids or is just a hater.

        They cheated. End of story. Whether or not you think so, it looks bad to anyone that has any self respect.
        Your signature picture has been removed since it contained the Photobucket "upgrade your account" image.

        "I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents. Charity is no part of the legislative duty of the [federal] government." ~ James Madison

        ‎"If you've got a business, you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen" Barack Obama

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        • Coco Savage
          E30 Enthusiast
          • Sep 2007
          • 1039

          #229
          Originally posted by joshh
          Really, so you think any player in MLB that doesn't do steroids is either ok with other players doing steroids or is just a hater.

          They cheated. End of story. Whether or not you think so, it looks bad to anyone that has any self respect.
          now see that wasnt even my point. Too bad you read too far into it!

          Im just noting anyone who mentions about the asterisk are just the ones who really hate/dislike them. Because the sports they play in havnt officially done so. And since governing bodies who run those sports also affect the history thats written, and you dont...that further goes with what im saying.

          Never did you hear me dispute that they didnt do something wrong/potentially did something wrong/possibly did something wrong in the past. Ya know?

          ;)

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          • jflip2002
            R3V Elite
            • Sep 2006
            • 4377

            #230
            Originally posted by Coco Savage
            Im just noting anyone who mentions about the asterisk are just the ones who really hate/dislike them. Because the sports they play in havnt officially done so. And since governing bodies who run those sports also affect the history thats written, and you dont...that further goes with what im saying.
            I actually have nothing against bonds, besides the fact that he cheated. Ive always been one to pull for him actually. But the fact that he broke aarons record on steroids is a reason for an asterisk.

            And as for the governing bodies doing nothing about it, thats true. SO FAR. Bud Selig has said on an interview with Dan Patrick that if he is found guilty of perjury, lying about taking steroids, or fails a drug test, he wouldnt be opposed to putting an asterisk next to the record. He also said that every fan already has the asterisk in their mind anyhow. which I think is true, Bonds hater or not.

            I can say the same for the Patriots. Everyone knows they got caught cheating. So asterisk or not, officially, I have one in my head. I do like how the New York times has one next to their record in the sports page with a big fat "caught cheating" for the asterisk, lol.
            Originally posted by blunt
            i would jerk larry king off while tonging jflips ass if h0lmes would blow his head off

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            • joshh
              R3V OG
              • Aug 2004
              • 6195

              #231
              Originally posted by Coco Savage
              now see that wasnt even my point. Too bad you read too far into it!

              Im just noting anyone who mentions about the asterisk are just the ones who really hate/dislike them. Because the sports they play in havnt officially done so. And since governing bodies who run those sports also affect the history thats written, and you dont...that further goes with what im saying.

              Never did you hear me dispute that they didnt do something wrong/potentially did something wrong/possibly did something wrong in the past. Ya know?

              ;)

              That's just it, they don't have to "officially" do so. Belichick was fined for cheating That came from the NFL. Bonds is also a cheater. And many others.
              It doesn't have to come from the league they are in. The fines speak for themselves. And so does cheating.
              Your "argument" is pointless and semantical.
              Like I said, the people that have any self respect will see it for what it is, cheating. And it does make a difference.
              Your signature picture has been removed since it contained the Photobucket "upgrade your account" image.

              "I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents. Charity is no part of the legislative duty of the [federal] government." ~ James Madison

              ‎"If you've got a business, you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen" Barack Obama

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              • Coco Savage
                E30 Enthusiast
                • Sep 2007
                • 1039

                #232
                again i never said it wasnt cheating.

                And last time i checked...YOU or I dont matter one bit in the history books of either of those sports. So yes we know you hate hate hate.....but in the end..no one is going to look back and reference you for official nfl/mlb history

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                • psloan
                  R3V OG
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 9815

                  #233
                  Dallas lost - I am pleased.
                  "We praise or find fault, depending on which of the two provides more opportunity for our powers of judgement to shine."

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                  • h0lmes

                    #234
                    Originally posted by psloan
                    Dallas lost - I am pleased.
                    Fuck yes. 1 down 1 to go.

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                    • MattE30
                      E30 Mastermind
                      • Oct 2003
                      • 1520

                      #235
                      I don't care that Dallas lost, but I am pissed that every analyst is going to be filling the air waves with conversation on Romo and who he fucks.

                      97 Cosmos M3

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                      • jflip2002
                        R3V Elite
                        • Sep 2006
                        • 4377

                        #236
                        Originally posted by h0lmes
                        Fuck yes. 1 down 1 to go.
                        +1

                        And after watching the games today, Michael Turner is going to be a Free Agent. He wouldnt be too bad in Seattle. And Steve slaton is entering the NFL draft. Maybe Shaun could sign for the veteran minimum in Philly, be the change of pace in Philly, and we can finally demote Suckhalter to #3, thus cutting Mahe.
                        Originally posted by blunt
                        i would jerk larry king off while tonging jflips ass if h0lmes would blow his head off

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                        • GoKart
                          Banned
                          • Jan 2008
                          • 136

                          #237
                          Any guesses for the upcoming Superbowl?

                          Packers vs Patriots?

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                          • h0lmes

                            #238
                            Originally posted by GoKart
                            Any guesses for the upcoming Superbowl?

                            Packers vs Patriots?
                            Packers OVER Patriots

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                            • jflip2002
                              R3V Elite
                              • Sep 2006
                              • 4377

                              #239
                              Id like Pack over Bolts.
                              Originally posted by blunt
                              i would jerk larry king off while tonging jflips ass if h0lmes would blow his head off

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                              • elsabor67
                                E30 Modder
                                • Jan 2008
                                • 837

                                #240
                                Packs & Bolts, with the Pack winning.

                                How do I spell stress relief?:hitler:
                                :!:Open Track Days!!!:!:

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