NFL Football...

[jflip2002]

I dont think you have much of a point in anything youre saying. Steroids is a single player gaining an advantage over another, which is cheating. Its wrong. But spygate was a whole team cheating, and gaining advantage over another.

Let me ask you a question..... Would you rather face someone who you know is stronger than you because he cheats. Or would you rather face a whole team who knows what youre going to do because they cheat?

Its almost like comparing shoplifting from the mall to robbing a bank, in my opinion.

[Coco Savage]

I dont think you have much of a point in anything youre saying. Steroids is a single player gaining an advantage over another, which is cheating. Its wrong. But spygate was a whole team cheating, and gaining advantage over another.

Let me ask you a question..... Would you rather face someone who you know is stronger than you because he cheats. Or would you rather face a whole team who knows what youre going to do because they cheat?

Its almost like comparing shoplifting from the mall to robbing a bank, in my opinion.

so because is cheating to a lesser extent its ok? cheating thats ok.


thats hilarious

[n2motorsports]

You're such a dumb fuck and quite obviously haven't watched a Hawks game this year. Their defense is incredibly physical and there were times in yesterdays game where it looked like they were going to start tearing limbs off. They have put up amazing numbers this year and players are consistently being picked as defensive player of the week/month. Not to mention the fact that 5 defensive team members are going to the pro bowl. Get your facts straight bro.


P.S. Funny Seahawk vid on ESPN http://sports.espn.go.com/broadband/...59789&n8pe6c=1

once you figure out which side is your ass and/or mouth, maybe shit will stop coming outta that mouth...you dumb fuck espn fanboy

j/k just chalk it up as another rebuilding year, my fing team took 13 yrs to win a playoff

[Purdue89E30]

I hate the Pats because I'm not a Pats fan and they're dominating and I'm sick of it. I don't need to have a more logical reason than that. To me they have become the evil empire of the NFL and I can't wait to see them get knocked off (probably next year). Pats fans should stop getting offended that the rest of the country hates their team; I'm from Chicago and I love hearing people say that they hated the Bulls in the mid-nineties, not many teams get good enough to piss people off.

[jflip2002]

so because is cheating to a lesser extent its ok? cheating thats ok.


thats hilarious

Show me here I said that. The humor is in your ignorance.

[joshh]

the funny part is im not a pats lover.. i just find your over whelming hatred for the pats funny.

I even agreed with you they did something wrong. You hate so much you missed that.


But if you hate them THAT much cause they cheated, the chargers also have someone who cheated. So if you hate cheaters how can you cheer for either?

The difference is one player compared to a coach that cheated and changed the real outcome games.

[Coco Savage]

Show me here I said that. The humor is in your ignorance.

And your hatred is yours.

BOTH are to gain a competitive advantage, and both are considered cheating by the nfl.

So NONE of them is ok. So if you are going to get on your soap box about hating the pats for cheating. Then you should be on anyone/everyone who cheats. That includes players who take steriods. Cause cheating is cheating....its against the rules. To be selective about your righteous paintbrush is silly.

The difference is one player compared to a coach that cheated and changed the real outcome games.

One player can make a difference in a game. The video tape was illegal, but can you show me where he used those tapes to his advantage?

[jflip2002]

One player can make a difference in a game. The video tape was illegal, but can you show me where he used those tapes to his advantage?

Thats the stupidest fucking comment Ive ever read. He obviously had an advantage or he wouldnt have done it. He also wouldnt have been fined money and a draft pick from the NFL.

One player doesnt make as big of a difference as a whole team of players with an advantage.

[Coco Savage]

Thats the stupidest fucking comment Ive ever read. He obviously had an advantage or he wouldnt have done it. He also wouldnt have been fined money and a draft pick from the NFL.

One player doesnt make as big of a difference as a whole team of players with an advantage.

He was fined for illegally taping, the nfl didnt state he was able to use the tape. Show me where that was officially stated.Furthermore the coach was fined, and the organization. NOT the indivudual players. Unlike merriman did for his use of steriods.

Its stupid cause i dont agree with you

[joshh]

He got off easy. My personal view is he should have been banned from the sport. He was even warned not to do what he did.
The NFL doesn't just hand out .5 million dollar fines.
No one will even know just how bad he cheated, the NFL is great at sweeping this stuff under the rug. But the fine speaks for itself.
I suspect the only reason he wasn't booted from the league is the NFL didn't want more of a mess on its hands.

[jflip2002]

Its not stupid because you dont agree with me. I think the punishment was fitting, I dont think he should have been banned. But he was already warned for taping these games last year. If he wasnt able to use them, and wasnt gaining an advantage, he wouldnt do it. Also, to clarify this, Im not a Merriman fan. But you cant route against the Chargers entire team because of one cheater. You can however route against the entire Patriots team for them having an advantage, as a whole, over their opponent.

Both are cheating. Both are wrong. But there are different degrees of cheating. The Patriots cheating effort was more advantageous than just one player on the Chargers cheating.... And like stated before, the Patriots also have a roid user in Harrison on their team.

If you cant sort out the difference here, I dont know what else to say. It speaks for your ignorance.

[Coco Savage]

here is where you hatred, or your general attitude has failed you. I never said there wasnt a difference. I never even said the two ways of cheating are on the same level. If you can find that show me. If not you are wasting your time/energy etc on "showing me"

The thing is it was belichick that was fined for the taping, nfl never stated that any players were involved. If i missed that show me that also.

My point was that if you agree both are wrong, why dont i really see you carrying on about merrmian what so ever. And if you are so adamant about cheaters....then shouldnt you?

Does anyone even realize that videotaping IS allowed in the nfl?

[Purdue89E30]

Does anyone even realize that videotaping IS allowed in the nfl?

Yeah but stealing signals isn't

[Coco Savage]

Yeah but stealing signals isn't

signals are done out in the open, they are stolen all the time

[Purdue89E30]

signals are done out in the open, they are stolen all the time

Fine, using video to steal signals is against the rules. It would be pertty tough to make it illegal to look at the people doing the signaling but on the flip side it seems liek it would be pretty tough to steal signals without a camera. What do they do make sketches like they're in a courtroom?

At any rate taping the sidelines is against the rules for a reason, just admit that Belichick was cheating. I'll still admit that the Pats are probably the best team ever.