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[Coco Savage]

admit you havnt read a single post, and ill admit you just made a wasteful post.


read my posts above, and then come back and admit the pats are great like you said you would

[jflip2002]

No one is saying the Pats arent great. They are. Its just unfortunate they had to cheat. They may have been great without cheating, but who knows. Its kinda like the barry Bonds situatio n.

[Coco Savage]

No one is saying the Pats arent great. They are. Its just unfortunate they had to cheat. They may have been great without cheating, but who knows. Its kinda like the barry Bonds situatio n.

i agree totally. because it doesnt seem like they actually needed it.

[jflip2002]

Which is sad. And the case is same with Bonds. He was already a top 10 player of all time before the steroids.

on another note, Baltimore hired John Harbaugh away from us today. I think thats a really bad hire. He was a great special teams coach. He was only promoted to secondary coach this year. This year our secondary struggled, with the same stars we had last year. I dont see this lasting more than the typical three seasons, and baltimore being on their way for another head coach.

[Coco Savage]

what you think the new fins coach will do?

[Purdue89E30]

You misunderstood the end of my post, I was saying that I DO believe the Pats are probably the best team ever...

I still think that Belichick was trying to cheat but I don't think it affected anything this season except to make him and the team angry.

[jflip2002]

I have no idea what the fins coach will do. I dont see why Cameron was fired. Its not like the Dolphins failure was totally his fault. They sucked before, and there were a lot of injuries. I think firing one coordinator for another is kinda stupid. They shoulda went after a head coach whos done it before, to get some stability in the locker room. Now its going to be up to them, and the draft. And hope they dont draft someone like Ted Ginn Jr. #1 overall lol.

[Coco Savage]

i totally agree as far as the fins go.....but its almost as if they hired the new guy to be Big tuna's puppet. Like Tuna will be coaching from the office.

[n2motorsports]

You misunderstood the end of my post, I was saying that I DO believe the Pats are probably the best team ever...

I still think that Belichick was trying to cheat but I don't think it affected anything this season except to make him and the team angry.

he's a smart man, why would he do something if he didn't gain anything from it?
if you knew what the other team was running, you're obviously at an advantage. the sad thing is, his team is decent enough that they probably didn't need to go the extra step to cheat.

go bolts!

[Coco Savage]

deja vu?

[jflip2002]

i totally agree as far as the fins go.....but its almost as if they hired the new guy to be Big tuna's puppet. Like Tuna will be coaching from the office.

I think youre pretty damn close with that one. Spadaro is a former Parcells assistant. So Parcells obviousl sees something in him that he likes. I guess we'll see how they do next year. They cant get much worse, so you know he'll last longer than a year lol.

[joshh]

Being a Miami fan, all I can do next year is look up. Or they could go 0-16..................:shock:
Miami was set for failure this year anyways.

The Pats are a great team, no one can take that from them. But the cheating just makes it look so bad.

[MIKe30]

you're arguing ruined a totally good thread.



ps, i hate the eagles - but i agree with jflip on this one.

[Coco Savage]

I think youre pretty damn close with that one. Spadaro is a former Parcells assistant. So Parcells obviousl sees something in him that he likes. I guess we'll see how they do next year. They cant get much worse, so you know he'll last longer than a year lol.

ya i just got that feeling...the second they hired parcells..no matter who they hired would be a "stand in"

and arguing didnt ruin the thread. Nothing like some fellas getting in a ol spirited chat about sports! No harm no foul......jflip doesnt wish death on me or anything... i think..

[Coco Savage]

Giants v Patriots!