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[Adam1990325iC]

You're comparing illegal hands to the face to years of illegal video taping?


Brady sucked because he was scared of hitting the ground again. NYG defense was stellar and shut the pats down. End of story. The pats got straight up put played.

So you have the definate proof of "Years" of illegal taping? I would love to see it myself if you know where it is. Until proof comes out, not speculation, then I don't believe it. If it does, well then I stand corrected. My original comment was how can a referee standing right next to the sidelines not see that play, to start the whole game off, pretty bullshit call to me. Overall, congrats to the Giants, could care less, we'll just see where both teams go from here, I can tell you this, the Giants better live it up, be a long time before they ever get this close again, mark my words.

[Coco Savage]

did anyone else notice what a bunch of sore loser vaginas the pats were?

you mean like all the pats haters? ;)

[Turf1600]

So you have the definate proof of "Years" of illegal taping? I would love to see it myself if you know where it is. Until proof comes out, not speculation, then I don't believe it. If it does, well then I stand corrected. My original comment was how can a referee standing right next to the sidelines not see that play, to start the whole game off, pretty bullshit call to me. Overall, congrats to the Giants, could care less, we'll just see where both teams go from here, I can tell you this, the Giants better live it up, be a long time before they ever get this close again, mark my words.

It doesn't really matter any more. They didn't win! Spare the excuses on no call penalties - the pats got outplayed.

[delatlanta1281]

So you have the definate proof of "Years" of illegal taping? I would love to see it myself if you know where it is. Until proof comes out, not speculation, then I don't believe it. If it does, well then I stand corrected. My original comment was how can a referee standing right next to the sidelines not see that play, to start the whole game off, pretty bullshit call to me. Overall, congrats to the Giants, could care less, we'll just see where both teams go from here, I can tell you this, the Giants better live it up, be a long time before they ever get this close again, mark my words.

The NFL destroyed the evidence befor it all got out. That tells me there was alot of it. They protected the team. That's not to say that the Pattys aren't talented as fuck. They got outplayed last night. Sorry, but they did. i was just as surprised as you. The Giants brought the right coverage through out the game and blitzed well. brady was on his back almost as much as Colt Brennen in the Hi Ga game. He never got a chance to utilize Moss, and that hurt them. I agree the defense was tired towards the end, and they weren't playing the right coverage towards the end of the fourth quarter. but if the defense was so "gassed" why didn't the Patty's score. They thrive in situations like that! You can't deny the touchdown that Manning threw even if he tried to give the ball away every pass before it.

[uofom3]

Fuck Eli Manning, and the Giants. That's all I have to say about it.

[TwoJ's]

I don't know what some of you are talking about, that was a great game. I missed most of the commercials and the half time show due to a keg needing finishing (bad move in hindsight: I feel like shit), but I did see pretty much the whole game. And even if there was some hands to the face, that was an amazing catch.

And Jflip, as much as I hate it, you are right about this being like the '01 Mariners. Epic failure pretty much sums it up.

[Coco Savage]

funny it went from they were always cheaters to..... well it doesnt matter now cause they lost.

[jflip2002]

jflip, you are probably one of the most ignorant people on this board talking about "cheating" and whatnot. The film was taken the first week of the year, done with, nothing else. The team had a lot of weapons that teams incorrectly game planned for. If you noticed, the 1st and 2nd half of the season, there was obviously a downturn as more teams could look at what worked best, and that was double teaming moss, jamming receivers, and most imporatntly, putting pressure on Brady. Last night, to be honest, Brady did not have his best game, his passes were off, the pressure was tight, and there is absolutely no excuses. If anyone gives the defense shit, you don't know what you were watching, because taking away the final drive, they allowed 10 points. Did you see the Giants defense the last Pats drive, they were sucking air, so much for being young and out defense was slow and old. I can remember 2 of their players with supposed injurues, I think a plan to stall and gain some O2. All I have to say is did you see the pass to Toomer in the first quarter when he not only pushed off Hobbs, but did so with illiegal hands to the face, enough said. Being a Pats fan, not a bandwagon jumper like many around here, for my entire life, I am distraught. I can't even watch anything related to sports now, kind of reminds me of the 2003 ALCS, not the 86 world series like others have been saying.

Lol so what have you said that proves me ignorant? Brady had a "bad game" because the defense was playing great. You said nothing that wasnt already said. Yeah the patriots were great earlier in the year, so what? Hobbs got hand to the face, big fucking deal. YOu see that Patriot forearm/punch the Giant in the head after the punt when the play was over and no flag was pulled? Or when Light blocked a GIant in the back on a Welker screen? Who cares, a lot of people got away with a lot of calls. There werent any huge calls either way though.

The Patriots cheated in 2001. They probably cheated in the 2005 superbowl when Philly lost to them also. Theyre cheaters, and Im glad they lost. Now I hope those pieces of shit lose Moss and Samuel too.

This will be the fall of their little empire. Your beloved pats are the real Evil empire. At least the Yanks never cheat ;)

[jflip2002]

So you have the definate proof of "Years" of illegal taping? I would love to see it myself if you know where it is. Until proof comes out, not speculation, then I don't believe it. If it does, well then I stand corrected.

Lol, ever hear the saying where theres smoke theres fire? The reports werent totally fabricated son.

[Adam1990325iC]

To the person who said why didn't the Pats score when the Giants were gassed, well they did, it was their last drive when moss scored. JFlip, I understand, it must suck being a Philly fan, not much to be happy about when the only thing you can talk about is the 74-75 Flyers and the team that just couldn't win the big game Eagles. Everyone has their own opinion and it's just those who are jealous when a team can win. The Yankees were hated because they dominated in a league with no salary cap. Oh and the Yankees never cheated, you can't really say that with some of the names listed in the Mitchell report were part of the team. You can say what I said about no other definite signs of use, but use your own analogy of where there's smoke there's fire. When I say the Giants smacked the O-line in the mouth, I mean it. Brady was inaccurate, he couldn't get throws off, and it's over. If you want to talk about epic letdowns, forget the Mariners, they didn't even make it to the ALCS nevermind the WS, how about the 2004 Yankees in the ALCS, that is a pretty "choke" situation.

Oh and the "son" remark is a total joke. I'm probably older and a I know I am a tougher person than you, so why even make a remark like that, son?

[92 mtechnic cabrio]

The son remark isn't actually age related when used in that context..........but only kids would get that...

I came up fifty dollars betting ten dollars that the giants would win in my circle of friends :)

[Adam1990325iC]

Well I am basing it off of the term of addressing a young man, pretty rude to me because if someone my age were to say that to me in person, it would be a messy situation.

[Coco Savage]

the pats got Cheated....

[Turf1600]

the pats got Cheated....

If they got cheated - they cheated themselves when they didn't play better than the other team.

[Coco Savage]

If they got cheated - they cheated themselves when they didn't play better than the other team.

ahhh well obviously the sarcastic humor flew way over your head. The smilies were the clue it was just a joke ;)