Last night some gangster wanna-be...

[TwoJ's]

Yes, this is the first friend I've had that was shot, unless it was suicide. I'm not a sheltered little kid or anything, but I grew up in a town of 50,000 and gang violence was non existent. But, that town was also like 5 minutes from Tacoma which is a whole different story.

I've had a gun pointed at me before too. My friend was selling just an ounce of bud and these two guys tried to jack him. I was in the back seat, and had it in my face momentarily, but it was on my friend the whole time. I wasn't thinking he would shoot though, so i hit his hand and yelled at my friend to get the fuck out of there.

Mariano, I mean no offense what so ever by this: Usually this type of thing happens to people because it's their fault. I'm sure you realize that that stuff happened to you because of the people who you associated with. But I don't know, it may have been totally different. In this case though, this girl is 20 years old at a under 21 club just trying to dance and have a good time. She and two other people were shot because they were in the wrong place at the wrong time.

[golde30]

hmm. first time i had a gun pulled on me i was 12. i ran like hell. second time was when i was 15, and i got jacked for anything that was of value. i collect called my Dad to come pick me up b.c they stole my wallet w/ my bus card and money, he said walk home. i dont know who i was more angry @, my dad or those punks who jacked me.

when i was younger, if some1 got jacked/stabbed/shot, we went after them like a bunch of idiots. now im 26, and early this year my friend got stabbed @ a bar, and my reaction was talking to him for 3 hours in the hospital tryn to tell him its karma, and that there is no good in revenge. after spending a week in the hospital, he decided he didnt wanna ever be back there again.

[Turf1600]

You could say that. Im not proud of it.



Mariano

Meh. What's past is passed. I'd like to pick your brain though. I'm sure there's endless stories. If you dont mind me asking - whats the appeal? Group solidarity?

[e30 gangsta]

id say survival and $

[Midnight Sun]

Not really related. But I got mugged next to albertson's last nigh TwoJ.

Fucking leaving the Oak Rail, some douche bag threw me to the ground for 6 bucks... Totally un-Ellensburg.

[TwoJ's]

This sounds bad, but were they un-white? That's really weird, I have never heard of anything like that around here.

[CleanAzzE30z]

Mariano, I mean no offense what so ever by this: Usually this type of thing happens to people because it's their fault. I'm sure you realize that that stuff happened to you because of the people who you associated with. But I don't know, it may have been totally different. In this case though, this girl is 20 years old at a under 21 club just trying to dance and have a good time. She and two other people were shot because they were in the wrong place at the wrong time.

I see your point and agree with you all the way. Its a law of percentages. Its logical that the more you are around it, the more chance you have of going out like that. Took me a long time to realize that and not have that idiot excuse of "If its my time, its my time anyways". Bulllshit, there are actions one takes that can help "your time" come around sooner than it would. Im sorry about what happened to your friend.

Mariano

[CleanAzzE30z]

Meh. What's past is passed. I'd like to pick your brain though. I'm sure there's endless stories. If you dont mind me asking - whats the appeal? Group solidarity?

Oh I have stories that would blow your mind. I used to take psychology and sociology classes and everytime I told a story that related to the topic at hand, the whole class was like intensely concentrated in listening INCLUDING the teachers. Im lucky to be here.

The appeal? Its a combination of ignorant youth decisions, idolizing the wrong people, wanting the easy route (or what you THINK is the easy route), group solidarity, money comes into it after a while, and you get conditioned to want to be the baddest mutherfucker, cuz that is what is expected, and thats what you have come to believe in your small world. Its fun for a while, but then you grow older and the stakes get a LOT higher. Its not little kid shit anymore, by then you have a drug habit or two, more than likely have kids, have legal problems looming over you and youve dug youself into a large hole that IF you try hard to get out, will take years to put your life back in shape. Like me, if you leave that life. You life is on pause after high school and Im starting at 26 what I should have started at 18. My brother is farther along in life in terms of success and getting his shit straight than me and he's 5 years younger. But whatever, some people NEVER GET IT. I had thee presence of mind to see that it was all bullshit. Taking me absolutely nowhere fast.

Mariano

[mtechnik]

Good thing that you have that opportunity!

[vlad]

my secretary's sister in law was shot yeasterday in Newark, NJ, she is in a coma, drive by shooting...

[TwoJ's]

That's horrible. I wonder sometimes what this world is coming to.

[myinfernalbmw]

More guns and less stupid people. Not to be cunfused with more stupid people with guns. If there were less stupid people then the guns wouldn't be necessary. I'm sort of joking with all that...

Sorry to hear about your friend, things like this really piss me off. There always has to be some fucker playing the badass and escalate things to the point of shooting recklessly and harming innocent people. I blame assholes who idolize violence via any media of choice.

[Midnight Sun]

This sounds bad, but were they un-white? That's really weird, I have never heard of anything like that around here.

No just a drunk yokel.

[E30_pilot]

we threw a house party...
...one of our friend got in a little "scuffle" in the backyard.....as we were tryin to break up the fight and get ppl out..one of the dudes pulls a gun on my friend at shoots..luckily it misfired or sumting..

thanks to assholes like that...we havent thrown a party since..

[CleanAzzE30z]

Its amazing what people are willing to risk the death penalty for.


Mariano