My school is r3v

[Turf1600]

and yet you say "College doesn't do shit", incorrectly post figures for wage gaps, and attempt to mislead readers on the amount of successful HS dropouts and misfortune of college grads.

no matter how a few people can be able to not go to college, and be successful, and how some aren't lucky after college, you cannot devalue the better chances you get with a post-secondary education. trying to make an argument out of outliers is moronic.

Like I said - say what you want - because I'll always be more successful than you. You proved it earlier in your stats.

IIRC you posted the same stats as i did regarding wage for liberal arts majors...

If you think "luck" has anything to do with it you are wrong.

[Miatamania]

4 years schools are a waste of time unless you want to be a lawyer or something.

Or...teach. Some of us do, or want to do that.

Or design the cars you want to be working on...a lot of those guys have engineering degrees.

Etc...etc.

Interesting comparison.

Do the other students tear you an asshole as bad as R3v does?

[rwh11385]

Unless you have a specific job that you apply your major to every day. How would a college education help someone who does what I do? Say I am a District manager and sell product to a large do it youself warehouse?
Keep in mind what I said earlier about forward progression to a director spot. How would it help a new hire?

How is this structured into sentences? Is How supposed to be a start of a new sentence or part of the one before it?

English composition can help anyone communicate better with the people they deal with, and courses on public speech can help in meetings with subordinates. Business law can teach about how to avoid being screwed by not understanding UCC or contract law. Teamwork/organizational behavior can give tips to better guiding people working under you, as can experience in student organizations help. Probability can help enhance ability to deal with odds that are involved with business, and understanding finances, accounting, distribution could be helpful as well. Psychology can help one understand how others think and react.

The bottom line is college hopefully teaches people some useful pieces of information, but moreover teaches them how to learn, so that employers know they can handle advancement. Just because you get an entry-level job out of college and work for several years does not mean you have potential to move up, where being able to learn advanced and conceptual topics may show that.

In addition, personal growth and development are a vital part of college. An opportunity to find oneself outside of parents and before the workplace can make a person ready to deal with others on their own without seeking parental guidance or questioning themselves. Not to mention good networking can be achieved in college.

A new hire can use college, like Charlie said, as a multi-year project in which they handled tasks and for sales, hopefully one has examples in the other half of college to retell. A lot of education takes place outside the classroom, which is why it's not always the major that matters the most, but what you really get out of school. At the Tech School, dirty jokes and harassing one another is the lesson outside of the book, but in real schools it may be meeting a deadline or working with others.

[rwh11385]

Like I said - say what you want - because I'll always be more successful than you. You proved it earlier in your stats.

IIRC you posted the same stats as i did regarding wage for liberal arts majors...

If you think "luck" has anything to do with it you are wrong.

Yeah...

good luck on being a paper pusher in a NPO health care org... that'll get you places. Like the cubicle down the row. What are your career aspirations? Running your own HMO company?? puuhleaze. What's your major you are studying anyway?

What you claimed to have posted was the average wage for college graduates. Which was false. It does not make what you posted correct because it was also the average starting salary of a B.S. liberal arts major as I posted. The average college graduate career wage is higher than the average career wage of a bachelor degree'd graduate. And the average salary earned by a college graduate is higher than their average starting salary.

The point you seem to be missing is even the bullshit major bachelor's degree starting salary is as high as the average full time pay of a high school graduate! Not to mention higher paid majors like engineering, career average salaries, or professional degrees...

Luck plays a role in all people's lifes. But smart decisions can improve the chances of a positive outcome. No one can predict the trends of industry success or demand shocks in the economy, but improving one's skill set and being ready for what comes will improve one's luck.

[Turf1600]

Well, you just showed your immense lack of education - bashing the medical field.

WTF is an HMO company? lol

My major? Radiology. Double check the pay of a radiologist really quick and get back w/ me.

[rwh11385]

My major? Radiology. Double check the pay of a radiologist really quick and get back w/ me.

And you are going to be in school/residency for 9 more years...?

my desired career path would put me past your earnings in fewer years...

And people look like Paper Mario right now... time for bars ttyl bebe

[Turf1600]

And you are going to be in school/residency for 9 more years...?

my desired career path would put me past your earnings in fewer years...

And people look like Paper Mario right now... time for bars ttyl bebe

good job - loser.

[Turf1600]

this thread needs to die.

[trashcop 80s 80s]

My major? Radiology. Double check the pay of a radiologist really quick and get back w/ me.

Are you in residency? Radiology is not really a major.

[Turf1600]

I'm getting certified in XR, Fluoro, Nuc Med, CT, MRI and PET CT first with a bachelors - then I'll continue my education while working for the hospital.

[rwh11385]

Are you in residency? Radiology is not really a major.

exactly.

psloan, you are all high and mighty about being an X-ray tech and trying to mention radiologist's salary? goddamn, you are a fucking loser.

[Turf1600]

did I say I was going to be an XR tech? absolutely not. That's the first certification - which is BS. MRI and PET CT get paid 6 figures. Like I said though - this is just so I can work through the rest of school.

Lance - I want you to compare yourself with me so you can STFU - because I will win.

I'm 22

I own my own brand new house that was built for me

I have 2 fully funded IRA's (4 years) yeilding 12% or more

I've got enough set aside to live off of for 2 years.

My and my wife combined make nearly 3x what the average college grad makes - and we both pay for our school in cash!

If you're doing better than me - let me know. If not, STFU now

[rwh11385]

well sweet. clearly you are a young, ignorant douchebag and seem to love your job as much as you love talking about yourself and lying. I hope you enjoy being a hypocrite talking about not working for someone else while you are the MRI jockey, still, at 50.

http://swz.salary.com/salarywizard/layouthtmls/swzl_compresult_national_HC07000177.html

Six figures my ass. Nice work trying to sound cooler than you are.

I can bet you will try to continue on your way to be a "radiologist" and fail, and just be the guy who will scan my balls.

[trashcop 80s 80s]

Good luck making over 100k in ANY radiology tech position, unless you are a supervisor or you work tons of overtime, or you are set up with a lucrative traveling position. My employer starts x-ray techs out at $19hr, and MRI/Nuc out at $24hr.

You will not work through medical school if that is what you mean by "work through the rest of school". It is not possible, you will fail.

[Turf1600]

well sweet. clearly you are a young, ignorant douchebag and seem to love your job as much as you love talking about yourself and lying. I hope you enjoy being a hypocrite talking about not working for someone else while you are the MRI jockey, still, at 50.

http://swz.salary.com/salarywizard/layouthtmls/swzl_compresult_national_HC07000177.html

Six figures my ass. Nice work trying to sound cooler than you are.

I can bet you will try to continue on your way to be a "radiologist" and fail, and just be the guy who will scan my balls.

Regardless of what you think about my career path - I'm still doing far better than you are. As for failing - I fail at nothing. Period. That's how I got where I am now. So - go enojy your dorm that you're sharing with another dude and credit card debt ass hat.