My school is r3v

[Turf1600]

My mother worked throughout college to afford it through Master's but told me not to. psloan surely and multiple times talked down about people who don't have to work to afford school with his views.

At least 60% of jobs are found through networking, not from career offices at school or online. Work experience and grades are good but knowing a lot of people in a lot of areas helped a lot. All my good leads come from people I met solely from an active social lifestyle, not the classes I took or places I worked, and my work on campus, in class, and in the summer takes care of the rest.

I didn't talk down about "people" who do what you do - I was being a dick to you in response to you immediately being a dick to me. What I do isn't easy and it's not for everyone. I don't envy the college life but I respect it.

[delatlanta1281]

Ahh ok.

[rwh11385]

She got a job at the company she interned at throughout college and still works there and didn't network that greatly as she was always working or with her ex husband during school.

[delatlanta1281]

Good point. I have an active social lifestyle, and I love it. Networking in a bar atmosphere is a great way to get to know a potential employee or customer. Half my employees were hired through networking, the othe half are new college grads. I have a great mix of employees, and it shows in my comps and my quick turnaround on tasks.

Was your mom not successful? Did she feel it would have been better to network in her position?

[rwh11385]

My mother worked throughout college to afford it through Master's but told me not to. psloan surely and multiple times talked down about people who don't have to work to afford school with his views.

At least 60% of jobs are found through networking, not from career offices at school or online. Work experience and grades are good but knowing a lot of people in a lot of areas helped a lot. All my good leads come from people I met solely from an active social lifestyle, not the classes I took or places I worked, and my work on campus, in class, and in the summer takes care of the rest.

[delatlanta1281]

I wouldn't say you are being looked down on. It just simply isn't for some. Doesn't mean it's wrong or right, just different. But you can't guage you future success on how much partying you are doing. If you end up working for a large company there will be chances to "network" as well. There is nothing wrong with working while in school. Don't you know people who worked while in college who are successful? Did your parents? Mine did. My mom worked throughout her college carreer, through both her masters programs while raising my brother and I and she was one of the first female executives in Home Depot. She partied and had a blast just like most 21 year olds. She networked in the publishing company she worked for while in grad school and met Arthur Blanc and Pat Farrah. Pat asked her to be his assistant purely on her attitude and work ethic. Sure he knew she went to a great school, but that's not why he wanted her. Home Depot moved us down to atlanta when I was a freshman in High School and took care of my family until we found a house. Not because of my mom's grades or who she met in college, but b/c of her personality which I can assure you didn't have anything to do with her college experience (Goucher University).

That is just one example of many I have seen in the actual workplace. I also know people who networked in college and are now great photgraphers, artists, and graphic designers. They do very well with the relationships they formed in school.
I think one type of college experience is juats as important as the next.
What do you think Lance?

[rwh11385]

I have also worked ALL my life and was still able to incorperate all the things you talk about.

Sorry, but I doubt I would be able to get all the same experience while working. I'd probably be working if I didn't get paid to learn but my work in HS paid off as much as if I made ~$50,000 over the last 4 years during school and partying/networking will end up helping me than a college job work experience.

It's definitely not the normal course of college, but networking and going to class instead of working should not be looked down on just because some choose to work while in school.

[delatlanta1281]

I missed this thread because i was studying for finals :)

Good luck man!

[uofom3]

I missed this thread because i was studying for finals :)

[delatlanta1281]

Oh ok so you haven't started a career yet.
Now I understand.
You can talk about internships, travel, third world countries, BMW plants, Laguna Seca, Belize, posting naked pics of an ex-girlfriend. Whater you want. It doesn't impress me. People do cool shit ALL THE TIME! Not just you braggy. I have been tons of places as well. I have also worked ALL my life and was still able to incorperate all the things you talk about. Until you have become successful in this world all your shit talking about how successful you will be is crap. Education won't play a huge part in success once you have a job. Attitude, humility, the intelligence to stop arguing and listen to people with different ideas (goes for the both of you), and the foresight to ask questions even if you feel stupid will get you everywhere. You really think tht I as a boss give two shits if you shingled a house in belize? I worked HFH all throughout highschool in section 8 parts of Atlanta. I actually made a difference in MY city. Does my boss care? No. He probably respects it, but it isn't going to help further his or my career. Both of you get down off you box and try to agree that there are different approaches to life and work. One may not work for you, but if it works for others how is that BAD????? I belive the OP was trying to say that before you two started ass grabbing.

[rwh11385]

Well, you still value working and money more than going back to campus and living the collegiate experience. For so many posts, you seem obsessed with your income, so that's where I got that assumption. If you value other things in life, don't be so big and boastful or competition when it comes to money.

[Ral]

fellas- give it up. The longer you go at this, the more your responses are gonna aggravate the other person (people).

Oh- and whether you mean to or not, every defense (and three or four consecutive, different posts within 5 minutes) you throw out there are digging you deeper into the hole. not hating on you, or attacking you, just stating what seems to be the general consensus.

[Turf1600]

You gave up life on campus and the atmosphere, a plethora of people your age, for money. Certainly that is a choice, but for however much you are getting paid and getting work experience, there is stuff you are giving up that I and others value - even if you are still working for that piece of paper that says you are passing courses. Even if you have a social life, you're not living school as one at college does.

If you are going to make statements, be careful not to make sweeping generalizations based solely on your observations and shoddy numbers. Saying "College doesn't do shit" because you are stating bad data and met a stripper with a degree won't get you far in an argument or discussion.

Another assumption - I didn't give up on college for money. Other things were happening that were more important than friends, work, school - whatever. So I took care of that. Life took it's course from there and here I am now.

[rwh11385]

I still don't think I failed at the social part of college - but whatever. Agree to disagree. I still hold that everything I've said was in defense - I hate boasting. However, I was called a liar and put into question - so I responded. What I do isn't for everyone - sure. But I love it.

As a side note - If I had known my words would have been so carefully analyzed I would have chosen them more wisely.

You gave up life on campus and the atmosphere, a plethora of people your age, for money. Certainly that is a choice, but for however much you are getting paid and getting work experience, there is stuff you are giving up that I and others value - even if you are still working for that piece of paper that says you are passing courses. Even if you have a social life, you're not living school as one at college does.

If you are going to make statements, be careful not to make sweeping generalizations based solely on your observations and shoddy numbers. Saying "College doesn't do shit" because you are stating bad data and met a stripper with a degree won't get you far in an argument or discussion.

[rwh11385]

That doesn't look like a resume to me... looks like a transcript.
Where did you intern?
What experience and for how long?
So do you have a job as we speak?
I am confused...

Why would I post where I have worked. I'll put up pics of my (now) ex, but bringing work into the cereal budiness that is online fun and chaos of the r3v forum is stupid.

I've interned at an actuarial firm for two summers and a winter, and gave me a taste for financial study, which I learned I didn't like. And then I interned at a market research company this past summer. Now, I could have passed on the past summer's opportunity because it was unpaid (how it goes in the UK) but I highly value the experience of working in a city as cool and fun as London. Truly worth every pound.

I technically am employed at a BMW dealership still, but since I get paid by the University to learn and want extra curricular leadership experience and this would be more useful than $$, I do not work during school. I afford the fun things I do with additional scholarship money and a tiny business endeavor I do each semester (organize and sell t shirts for a pub crawl).

Maybe I shouldn't have gone to help paint a school house in Belize or spend the money on that study abroad, but I made some of my current best friends down there and helped people in a third world country, but it was worth it to me. Definitely maybe I should have not spent thousands of dollars each summer in track events and then more on tires, hotels, etc, but it was a blast. Maybe I shouldn't go to a BMW factory in Germany this spring break and work instead... but I bet it'll be worth it. There's no need for me to work and plenty of reason to choose to do other things with my time and give a foundation to build on after graduating. Why should I give up leadership experience and fun just for money? Life is pointless if you don't care to live it.