EARTH Day!

[E30 Wagen]

hehe, mrsleeve, wow...

Okay, has anybody ever been to a land fill? I mean, actually been at the actual site where they are dumping shit and there are huge loaders pushing huge piles of garbage around? Besides a war zone, it is like the worst fucking place to be.

Go ahead and rant and rave all you want about CO2 and Al Gore and fear mongering and by all means go ahead and run the hybrid drivers off the road in your diesel because you're likely right about the whole sun thing, but to ignore important problems like waste management and the growing demand for energy use is selfish and irresponsible. As cities and infrastructure continue to grow, the more important it's going to be to find ways to efficiently use the limited number of resources we have as well as to invest in more sustainable forms of energy that produce less waste.

Also, global warming and CO2 aside, there is such a thing as air quality, which remains an important issue in big cities and industrial areas where people do indeed live... You might not give a rat's ass about those people, but then what does that say about you? If you don't care about anybody else then why the fuck should anybody care about you. Hopefully a dem will win and the gov't will end up taxing the fuck out of everybody over some "silly" environmental thing.

[mrsleeve]

Hopefully a dem will win and the gov't will end up taxing the fuck out of everybody over some "silly" environmental thing.

You buy Fuel lately, has all ready had the fuck taxed out of it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You in MI have Jon Deangle from detroit already trying to raise the fed fuel tax at the pump another 50 cents to a dollar on top of the 60 cents in fed tax they get now. In Mi you also pay 32 cents of state tax and 6% sales tax on the total so you are pay 6% on the 92 cents of state and fed taxes, so you get taxed for paying tax!!!!!!!!!!!!! (here I will do the math for you 98 cents, your fuel price would be a buck cheaper with out taxes) How old are you kid??? you need to go out make a living and see how much YOU make goes to the govt. it will piss you off. Plus you should see how much they get from big oil, the Govt makes more on oil than Big oil dose.


Now onto the point My former bosses (of 8 years in Mi) own a land fill, I have put the top liner and cap dirt on may a cell, alos have laid the ground work an put the many various liners down for new cells all while they are dumping shit up top. So I know a thing or 2 about land fills, care to ask.

Now I have never said we dont need to figure out something different to take care of our growing energy need, but not due too the current climate hysteria but because what are we going to do when it runs out??????????? Look I get pissed when people just jump on the GW band wagon, because AL said so! The panic he has created is preposterous an he all the others are cashing in hand over fist, and the more people he can convince the more cash that can be scammed (remember the dot com craze in 2000-2001 same idea)

Now dont you dare say hydrogen that puts out h20 vapor!! You live in MI you know what 90*+ and 90% humidity feels like, thats what it will be all the time in the summer. H20 vapor is a worse Greenhouse gas than Co2. Ever been in a green house on a hot day or near a big corn field on a hot day (10 ac of corn will pump a million gallons of h20 vapor into the atmo in a week IIRC).

Paul I considered everything you wrote an responded to everything thats pertained to climate change.

Now on the feeding everyone an drowning in our own shit, well buddy we are the top critter here on earth an the same rules apply to us as it dose to all other life here. Survival of the fittest, we have learned to bend the rules a lot with tools and our big ass brain gives us an advantage, but it will catch up at some point or we will learn to bend the rules more with technology. I will be dead in 60 years or less so I really wont give a shit then.