SCOTUS rules in favor of the 2nd Amendment

[joshh]

Gun shows here you have to go through the typical paper work to buy a gun. Same as a normal gun store and the typical background check as well along with thumb prints.

Only individuals selling a gun out of their trunk of their car, do you not have to do the paperwork. That is where the problem is. Bottom line criminals will always be able to get their hands on a gun providing they have the cash to do so. There are so many gun owners throwing caution to the wind when selling guns to just anyone without a transfer or stolen guns out on the black market that it would scare us to know how many did exist. Those will always be there period.

Glad to know our right to bare arms has been upheld

That only applies to pistols. Rifles can be bought on the spot and taken right home.

[atomic]

That only applies to pistols. Rifles can be bought on the spot and taken right home.

Not here, you fill out the same paper work and the same background check and thumb prints for any gun before you can walk out the door of a gun show. It applies to anything being bought in the building through a dealer. Individuals who sale their gun have to be done in the parking lot.

Tennessee says they destroy all forms for long rifles at the end of each day. Although you still do the same process to buy the gun, handgun or long gun.

[joshh]

Unless it changed recently you can buy a rifle up here and take it home the same day without a background check. I'll have to look into that....

[Pinepig]

He kicks the shit out of Ann Coulter. ;)

emmmm yeah. The only thing Rollins beats Coulter at is being a waffleswaffleswaffleswaffleswaffles and taking Blunts dick in the ass.

[atomic]

Unless it changed recently you can buy a rifle up here and take it home the same day without a background check. I'll have to look into that....

Here you can still take either a handgun or long gun home with you same day, pending approval. Unless the approval processs gets jambed up, but here you do go through the same process to get either.

Zero waiting period on either...

[joshh]

Here you can still take either a handgun or long gun home with you same day, pending approval. Unless the approval processs gets jambed up, but here you do go through the same process to get either.

Zero waiting period on either...

No cool down....:blowup:

I might be wrong here, looking...

[joshh]

This will scare people..............

http://crime.about.com/od/gunlawsbystate/f/gunlaw_or.htm

Only the licensed dealers need to do background checks.

[atomic]

No cool down....:blowup:

I might be wrong here, looking...

Yep no cool down period . LOL There use to be a 14 day on handguns and nothing on long guns, but that was changed many years ago. :D

[DCColegrove]

Latte's are gross anyways. Who the hell wants milk in their coffee? Now Americano's are my vice. Espresso and water is good for me. Tastes like candy.

When you get to my age (or as torn up as) I am you need the steamed milk to cut the acid.

[Pinepig]

This will scare the sheep..............

http://crime.about.com/od/gunlawsbystate/f/gunlaw_or.htm

Only the licensed dealers need to do background checks.

Fixed that for ya.

[Midnight Sun]

Are we seriously having a discussions about espresso guns, at the same time without any intermingling... Odd.


Great victory today. But 5-4, sadly it seems our right to bear arms is dwindling.

[joshh]

Fixed that for ya.

Thank you, that's much more fitting.

[Lair]

emmmm yeah. The only thing Rollins beats Coulter at is being a waffleswaffleswaffleswaffleswaffles and taking Blunts dick in the ass.

Rollins could whip mAnn's ass in a straight fight.

All he would have to do is kick her in the balls.

[E30 Cabrio]

The sad part is that this even had to be considered by the SCOTUS

The 2nd Amendment, like all Amendments shouldn't even have to be decided by the SCOTUS

Funny how the ACLU defends the US Constitution, except for the 2nd Amendment.

Here is a repost I posted on another forum:

It's also a proven fact that anyone who wants to disarm you wants to have some type of control over you, or wants you to be dependent on them for your safety.

Now, don't take this as a "I own a gun to protect myself from the tyrannical government" type of post, or any of that other paranoid, black helicopter type of thinking, but it is true that a government that wishes to disarm it's populace wants to create a dependency on the government.

In some extreme cases, the same governments wants to disarm people so they can literally enslave them, or worse. We haven't seen it in the US in years, although one of the early goals of the NRA, in addition to sponsoring legislation barring felons from owning firearms, was to make firearms legal for Blacks to own to prevent Blacks from being victimized by the KKK and allowing them to arm themselves.

Now I don't expect that or anything like that to happen again in the US, but the end goal is still the same - disarm the populace to make them more dependent on "Big Brother" for their safety - "It's for your own good"

Ultimately, everyone is responsible for their own safety. Gun ownership greatly reduces the odds of becoming a crime victim.

I'm surprised that more women aren't more independent when it comes to their own safety seeing how they are a demographic that is more likely to be victimized by someone who is bigger and stronger then them.

But most women I know are scared of guns. They have an irrational fear of them, mostly due to the media and the scare tactics they use.

Sigmund Freud also wrote something interesting about Men and fear of firearms. You may google it if you like. Interesting reading to say the least.

Sometimes, I can talk women I know into going to the pistol range with me and firing a little .22 target pistol, then gradually migrating up to the larger calibers once they've become comfortable with shooting and have demonstrated a knowledge of firearm safety, responsibility and common sense.

Most of them get a huge kick out of it, and became instantly hooked.

A few years ago, I got an email thru my classmates.com account from a girl I dated many years ago who thanked me for helping her to decide to get over her fear of firearms and for teaching her gun safety and how to handle a firearm, and for taking her to the pistol range and teaching her how to shoot and how to be responsible with guns.

It turned out to be a life-saving decision for her several years later.

She was in her early-20's at the time we dated and she was absolutely gorgeous and a great girl to boot. Had she not lived on the East coast and had her family and job there, I might have married her. She was and still is a great girl. Beautiful, smart, great personality, the complete package. Good in the rack too!

She's older now, though she is still quite the stunner, but she's married and lives on the opposite coast. (Hi Amy!)

But a psychotic ex-boyfriend nearly ended this beautiful woman's young life one night. All it took was the presence of her firearm (She didn't have to shoot him) to prevent a nightmare from occurring, and this scumbag was arrested, tried, convicted, sentenced, incarcerated and is probably having done to him in prison what he intended on doing to my ex-girlfriend.

Some of the things that came out in the trial about him were chilling, things that my ex didn't know about as her relationship with him was going on right about the time the internet was still growing.

It breaks my heart when I read about some poor girl who ends up being raped and murdered by some scumbag. Someone like North Carolina student Eve Carson, or Auburn student Lauren Burk, although there is no evidence that either were sexually assaulted, but they were murdered for a few dollars by some punks and probably offed them when they "didn't give it up smooth"

Imagine your last moments alive, being brutally raped by some disgusting scumbag criminal, being brutally beaten, then being strangled to death, or worse.

Any of you familiar with "The Wichita Horror"?

It didn't get much national air or ink, probably because the victims were white and the perpetrators were black.

Here's an article, but be warned, it's horrible:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wichita_Massacre

That is the tame version of events. This one goes more into detail:

http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/notorious_murders/classics/carr_brothers/index.html

Then there is this terrible story:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Channon_Christian_and_Christopher_Newsom_murder

Another article:

http://www.crimelibrary.com/news/original/0507/0301_channon_christian.html.html

My god, those poor people. I haven't cried in years, but nearly did when I read these articles and I was shaken to the core. I can't even begin to imagine the pain and horror these poor people endured and can only hope that Heaven does exist and that they are there and free of suffering and pain, but their families are still enduring literally hell on Earth, having lost their family members in such a terrible, horrific manner. Words fail me.

"But that won't happen to me. I live in a safe neighborhood. That only happens to other people, people who live in the crime-ridden inner cities. Not me. I'm safe."

Firearm safety should be taught in schools. This would reduce the number of accidental firearm deaths and save lives.

We teach "safe sex" in schools. We teach "safe driving" in schools.
But inexplicably, schools treat firearm safety like the plague.
You can't even mention the word "gun" in schools nowadays.

I remember in High School one of the electives was a "Hunting & Fishing" class. We used to tie our own flies for fly fishing, and we were taught firearm safety and even went skeet shooting once.

Imagine that nowadays. Not likely. Not ever.

Firearms are a fact of life, so why not at a minimum teach kids, older kids like Junior HS age kids firearm safety?

Why? Because the schools are run by the government, and the government wants you dependent on them for your safety, along with being dependent on them for just about everything else.

Also, licensed Concealed Carry owners are among the most responsible citizens in the US

Example: http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/adminis...Report2006.pdf

Every state that allows CC has similar stats. Take the time to read the link.

The unpleasant facts of life are that we live in a society where others wish to do harm to honest, good, hard-working people and many times, the only thing preventing that from happening is owning a firearm.

You can choose not to own a firearm if you like. I'll respect your choice but ask that you respect my choice to arm myself and have the means of defending myself and loved ones against some of the people that exist in society that would harm or kill any one of us and not lose a minute of sleep over it. In fact, they might even brag about it to gain "street cred"

Respect my choice and I'll respect yours, as long as it does not impede my rights or my choice.

But never forget, anyone that wishes to make you weaker wishes to control you or make you dependent on them.

And as long as people like the Carr brothers exist in society (If you read the links I posted to the Wichita Horror murders, you'll know who they are) or the scumbags in the murders of the other articles I posted.

If you didn't read the links, I strongly suggest going back and doing so.

I will never give up my right to defend myself against such evil, and the people that committed these horrific crimes are truly the definition of evil and people like this exist. It's not a Hollywood movie. These events really happened, to real people and it's horrific what they went thru and what happened to them.

Again, I will never, ever give up my right to defend myself against such horrors.

If you don't wish to own a firearm, that's your decision, but please don't encroach on my right to own firearms and to defend myself against such evil as described in the links I posted above.

Banning guns is not the answer. Criminals will always have guns or some other weapon to give them an edge over their victim(s)

Criminals are basically cowards and tend to victimize the easiest targets possible. They fear armed citizens far more then they fear the police or arrest.

I realize that this is a long post, but I ask that you please read it along with the articles I posted, as unpleasant as they are, there is a lesson to be learned from them and those lessons may save someone from a horrific fate someday. The thoughts of what those victims went thru, I can't even imagine it. It still brings me nearly to tears. I wish there was something I could do for them.

I hope none of you ever needs to have to use a firearm to defend your life or the lives of your loved ones. But I keep several fire extinguishers in my home and one in my car "just in case" and I see firearms as serving a similar purpose.

I hope I never need them, but if I do, I'll be damn glad I have them.

Thanks for your time.

[Maluco]

this thread needs the pic of that one cat one here in his swim trunks, hawaiian shirt, white wine in a martini glass with a shrimp, sporting some Liz Claiborne sunspecs and a couple of pistolas...

I'll try to find.