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    #76
    Originally posted by hugh jass View Post
    So what sort of gun regulation do you think there should be, if any?

    NICS check ( information on who was checked should be destoyed immediately), that is all. No 4473, no waiting period and no restrictions on weapons.

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      #77
      Originally posted by Pinepig View Post
      NICS check ( information on who was checked should be destoyed immediately), that is all. No 4473, no waiting period and no restrictions on weapons.
      what is the big deal with a waiting period?
      and what about weapons purchases at gun shows?
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        #78
        Sorry, but waiting periods place no restrictions on gun ownership for safe, law-abiding people; Neither to background checks. Neither of those restrict the ability of people to purchase a weapon for hunting, self-defense, or just to go down to the range and pop off a couple. I could very easily purchase a gun any time I want. How is that restrictive?

        What they DO prevent is a drunk husband from going out and buying a gun at a pawn shop to shoot his wife after a domestic dispute. They DO prevent someone with a felony history from buying an AR-15 at a gun show. They DO prevent someone with a documented mental illness from purchasing a deadly weapon and shooting up a bunch of innocent people.

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          #79
          Originally posted by hugh jass View Post
          what is the big deal with a waiting period?
          and what about weapons purchases at gun shows?
          Why do you need to wait, can't trust yourself?

          I never understood the waiting period thing anway, I have to wait in California, 10 days, I already own more than a couple, what's the point of making me wait 10 days to play with a new toy. If folks are going to kill themselves or somebody else and are determined there are other things that will work in a pinch with as much ease as a gun.

          The " gun show loophole " I'll answer the question if you can tell me who it applies too.

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            #80
            Originally posted by CorvallisBMW View Post
            Sorry, but waiting periods place no restrictions on gun ownership for safe, law-abiding people; Neither to background checks. Neither of those restrict the ability of people to purchase a weapon for hunting, self-defense, or just to go down to the range and pop off a couple. I could very easily purchase a gun any time I want. How is that restrictive?

            What they DO prevent is a drunk husband from going out and buying a gun at a pawn shop to shoot his wife after a domestic dispute. They DO prevent someone with a felony history from buying an AR-15 at a gun show. They DO prevent someone with a documented mental illness from purchasing a deadly weapon and shooting up a bunch of innocent people.
            Please look up NICS.

            I love the opinions of you folks that have no idea what are you are talknig about, I left one up there about the " gun show loophole " Please explain what it is and who it applies to. You guys love to give opinion but have no knowledge or facts of the issue just emotions. I realize this works for ya after you are done taking a dump ( I "feel" like I need to wipe my ass ) and it's probably a good call but unless you are looking at your cornhole you don't really know do ya.

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              #81
              Originally posted by Pinepig View Post
              Please look up NICS.


              I love the opinions of you folks that have no idea what are you are talknig about, I left one up there about the " gun show loophole " Please explain what it is and who it applies to. You guys love to give opinion but have no knowledge or facts of the issue just emotions. I realize this works for ya after you are done taking a dump ( I "feel" like I need to wipe my ass ) and it's probably a good call but unless you are looking at your cornhole you don't really know do ya.
              I already looked it up. And?..........

              Care to elaborate on these many 'facts' and all this 'knowledge' that you are privy to? So far all you have done is insulted us personally without actually stating any useful information. If the gun show loophole is such a big deal, then why not post up the information yourself? Perhaps we would be more inclined to see your views if you weren't such a d-bag about it.

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                #82
                Originally posted by Pinepig View Post
                Please look up NICS.

                I love the opinions of you folks that have no idea what are you are talknig about, I left one up there about the " gun show loophole " Please explain what it is and who it applies to. You guys love to give opinion but have no knowledge or facts of the issue just emotions. I realize this works for ya after you are done taking a dump ( I "feel" like I need to wipe my ass ) and it's probably a good call but unless you are looking at your cornhole you don't really know do ya.

                I just wanted to hear the pro-gun take on these issues.
                I'm not going to try to copy and paste a bunch of shit from websites to counter any of your points. You are obviously very pro-gun and it would be a waste of my time to try to debate you on anything to change your mind.
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                  #83
                  Originally posted by CorvallisBMW View Post
                  I already looked it up. And?..........

                  Care to elaborate on these many 'facts' and all this 'knowledge' that you are privy to? So far all you have done is insulted us personally without actually stating any useful information. If the gun show loophole is such a big deal, then why not post up the information yourself? Perhaps we would be more inclined to see your views if you weren't such a d-bag about it.
                  Do I look like your mentor? If you guys want to have a meaningful discussion about gun control, please do some research before you just pull stuff out of your backsides. Takea look at the history of gun control, you do understand that it statred as jim crow laws and is racist in nature. IMO it still is, the more restrictive laws are still in areas with large minority populations.

                  Yes I'm a d-bag when dealing with ignorance, it's one of my ( many ) flaws.

                  I could really care less if you see my views becuse they count about as much as yours on the internetz. The one that does count is the SC view and you'll see many more " pro freedom " decisions in the next few years coming down the road. If you want specifics, the next one will more than likely be incorperation using the 14th amendment, states rights be dammed. Not far behind will be a reprocity agreement regarding concealed weapon permits between states, as it is now it's a patchwork of crap, it should be more like a drivers license, you don't have to get a new one of those when you drive over a state line do ya.

                  If you guys continue to just spout " I feel " crap, expect to get "I feel" you guys are idiots as responses.

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                    #84
                    Originally posted by hugh jass View Post
                    You are obviously very pro-gun and it would be a waste of my time to try to debate you on anything to change your mind.

                    Not " pro gun " more pro-freedom, if it isn't hurting the guy next to you have at it. Wanna smoke a joint or snort coke, I could care less.

                    There are laws on the books already that make the harming of others with weapons illegal, what's the point of making more ( laws ) if the bad guys aren't paying attention to the other ones. It's not ( and never will be ) the object, it's the person behind it.

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                      #85
                      Originally posted by Pinepig View Post
                      Not " pro gun " ....
                      Ya, sure. and I "don't" drive a BMW.

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                        #86
                        Originally posted by CorvallisBMW View Post
                        Ya, sure. and I "don't" drive a BMW.
                        Taken out of context it looks pretty bad doesn't it, anti freedom folks tend to do this alot, it's OK Comrade.

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                          #87
                          Originally posted by Pinepig View Post
                          Taken out of context it looks pretty bad doesn't it, anti freedom folks tend to do this alot, it's OK Comrade.
                          Ya, all of us that like to see deadly weapons kept out of the hands of dangerous people, while at the same time ensuring that responsible, law-abiding citizens can still purchase firearms for self defense or hunting or whatever, are actually freedom-hating communists. Do you realize you are only digging yourself a deeper hole?

                          He who throws dirt looses ground buddy :)
                          Last edited by CorvallisBMW; 06-30-2008, 05:03 PM.

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                            #88
                            Originally posted by Pinepig View Post
                            Please look up NICS.

                            I love the opinions of you folks that have no idea what are you are talknig about, I left one up there about the " gun show loophole " Please explain what it is and who it applies to. You guys love to give opinion but have no knowledge or facts of the issue just emotions. I realize this works for ya after you are done taking a dump ( I "feel" like I need to wipe my ass ) and it's probably a good call but unless you are looking at your cornhole you don't really know do ya.


                            Yeah it kills me when these guys talk about the "gun show loophole". Here at a gun show anyone trying to obtain a gun inside the show itself goes through the same background checks and fill out the same paper work as they would if they went to Big Dicks Gun Store in your a waffleswaffleswaffleswaffleswaffles town... The only way to obtain a gun at a show here not registered or any background check is to buy one from an individual out of the trunk of their car in the parking lot. Those people who do have any concern about transferring the gun from their name to the new buyer either could give a shit or they know the gun is not a legitimate gun to begin with. Or these sellers list in local classifieds as well. If they will not let me run the numbers on the gun, I move on as I do not want to even touch that gun, way to hot for me. Those are the problem areas but with the tons of "hot" guns on the market how are you really going to take them off the street? Your not... EVER

                            Glad they upheld my right to bare arms...

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                              #89
                              Up here only dealers at gun shows have to do background checks. Scary thing right there.

                              I have no problem with the waiting period and think it's a good idea.

                              I'm willing to give up a bit of my rights if they keep guns out of criminal hands. But the laws that are in place don't do anything for either side. So there are fuck sticks on both sides.
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                                #90
                                Originally posted by CorvallisBMW View Post
                                Ya, all of us that like to see deadly weapons kept out of the hands of dangerous people, while at the same time ensuring that responsible, law-abiding citizens can still purchase firearms for self defense or hunting or whatever, are actually freedom-hating communists. Do you realize you are only digging yourself a deeper hole?

                                He who throws dirt looses ground buddy :)
                                You never did look up a NICS check did ya. Hey that's alright, remain ignorant if ya like.

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