Americas real problem....

[joshh]

One word....Lawyers.

No matter what the situation there is always a Lawyer or group of them defending any given situation and stopping justice/progression of this country.

A friend of mine is a Divorce attorney. I asked him one day why it is that Lawyers don't look for truth and all they do is defend the side they are representing (other than money). His response was simply, "it's their job".

There are good Lawyers but the majority will take any case they can.
We've entered an area where people sue for just about anything and Lawyers are right there to take up the cause.

Discuss if you so choose.

[TwoJ's]

I can see where you come from, but I also have had two good experiences with lawyers. And recently (last Friday) I had a very good experience. I would have seen a small amount of jail time if it were not for Mr. Beckley.

So in short... meh. Just like everything else in this country: If you don't like it either do something about it or don't complain.

[blunttech]

theres nothing to discuss. you are right on. litigants should be responsible for all court costs if they lose. done. where is our backwoods shitbag kentucky attorney to defend himself? he is probably handing out business cards while rigging the street lights to change at will in hopes of causing accidents

[Ral]

frivolous lawsuits nearly drove civil aviation out of business (I'm speaking about this because it's the most applicable topic I know about).. There is no statute of limitations, so companies were being sued 40 years after the product was produced for crashes caused by pilot error. Things like "inadequate visibility over the nose of a tailwheel aircraft, with the small wheel in the back".. but to fly a tailwheel aircraft, a pilot must have complete training to be able to deal with this issue. Or, systems that worked and were not operated correctly by the pilot, e.g. landing gear, fuel systems, etc. we said to be of a faulty design because 1 person killed themselves by being stupid in some of the most proven, successful designs produced, with millions of accumulated flight hours.

It also extends to mechanics... hence the reason everything in aviation is at least 10xmore expensive than anything land-based.

Congress later placed a statute of limitations on designs at 18 years, and lawyers are still hammering against it. It's never about safety, it's never about righting a wrong. It's about revenge and reparations from someone, regardless of what happened. Same with gun manufacturers, etc.

[Maluco]

There is alot of truth and things to be considered in this actually. If I'm not mistaken, every current federal justice was a lawyer and almost all of them for a while now have been.

You have to ask, what are a bunch of lawyers doing in the Supreme Court of the United States. These are the people we are relying on to translate the Constitution into law!!!!?

[TwoJ's]

There is alot of truth and things to be considered in this actually. If I'm not mistaken, every current federal justice was a lawyer and almost all of them for a while now have been.

You have to ask, what are a bunch of lawyers doing in the Supreme Court of the United States. These are the people we are relying on to translate the Constitution into law!!!!?

Wouldn't you say that lawyers know and understand the law the best?

I understand that stupid ass lawsuits and such are bad for everyone. I also understand that many defense attorneys will take case for the money, and not because they believe that their client is innocent.

However, I truly believe that there are many, many good defense attorneys out there. If a person is charged with a crime, and believes that they are innocent, they must turn to someone to interpret the law for them and represent them in the best way possible.

I recently finished up with a case that I was charged for physical control of a motor vehicle because I chose to sleep in my car with the key in the ignition instead of driving it home. This "crime" carries the same penalties as a DUI; so in theory I would have been better off to simply have driven home. I understand that I broke the law by having the key in the ignition, but I also think that I was doing every person in my town a huge favor by not driving. I wasn't endangering any lives, and I think the "spirit" of the law comes in to play here.

The morning after I got home, I looked up the law. While I consider myself to be intelligent, I really didn't understand the law completely and would have been lost had I attempted to represent myself.

I don't really know where I'm going with this I guess. But I truly believe my attorney is a good person, and that we should not lump all defense lawyers in to a harsh generalization.

[joshh]

Wouldn't you say that lawyers know and understand the law the best?

I understand that stupid ass lawsuits and such are bad for everyone. I also understand that many defense attorneys will take case for the money, and not because they believe that their client is innocent.

However, I truly believe that there are many, many good defense attorneys out there. If a person is charged with a crime, and believes that they are innocent, they must turn to someone to interpret the law for them and represent them in the best way possible.

I recently finished up with a case that I was charged for physical control of a motor vehicle because I chose to sleep in my car with the key in the ignition instead of driving it home. This "crime" carries the same penalties as a DUI; so in theory I would have been better off to simply have driven home. I understand that I broke the law by having the key in the ignition, but I also think that I was doing every person in my town a huge favor by not driving. I wasn't endangering any lives, and I think the "spirit" of the law comes in to play here.

The morning after I got home, I looked up the law. While I consider myself to be intelligent, I really didn't understand the law completely and would have been lost had I attempted to represent myself.

I don't really know where I'm going with this I guess. But I truly believe my attorney is a good person, and that we should not lump all defense lawyers in to a harsh generalization.

I agree with you on that point. But I also believe the reason you have to fight some things is some of our laws are pointless/baseless. And you end up fighting a law because it was written but not for good reason.
In other words our own laws compound justice in the justice system. Good people get fucked over many times, bad people get much less than they deserve many times as well.

But the reason some laws are like that is our Lawyers making them that way or fear of the justice system working but bringing on more litigation.