Bush Impeachment Hearing

[rwh11385]

Really?

Who's controlling it?

Like I have posted multiple times with facts and numbers to back it up, the primary concern of spending and the deficit is mandatory spending that are not under the control of Bush, unless he seriously wants to piss off the elderly.

Horseshit.

Bush's tax cuts combined with his out-of-control spending are the prime contributors to the record deficit, and it started long before 2007.

I like how you just call horseshit, although it is true... and once again you have no numbers, no facts, just stupid liberal propaganda. Your liberal mindset is based on ignorance and hatred, not understanding of the issues. Which I why I think liberals are usually worthless, they believe the crap they are told without looking at the numbers or understanding economics. Once again, I'll allude to minimum wage (they think will help rather than hurt unskilled people).

Tax cuts helps CONTRIBUTE to the REVENUES, you fool.

[Lair]

so then what do you believe in? if you stand for nothing, you'll fall for anything... which is what seems to be going on here.

Also... bobby isn't talking from a "right wing" standpoint... he's talking from the science of economics. it just happens to be that conservatives/republicans, in general, have a better grasp on economics. that's why they "are evil" and "have all the money".

LMAO

In one post, the top ten richest congressmen are all democrats, and in the next, the republicans have all the money.

You rightie extremists definitely have a LOCK on hypocrisy.

[Lair]

Did you really just say that? Are you trying to talk down to a younger demographic or something or do you actually listen to that shit to think that was a smart comment.

Also, you offer no solutions.

Nice take on my comment. I saw a report on 50 cent's success and thought it was good comparison to getting money for nothing.

I have a solution - get some real conservatives in the White House - even if they're democrats.

[Lair]

1) much of it is not under bush's control

Really?

Who's controlling it?

[Lair]

One lie you posted: Deficits can be blamed on Bush's tax cuts.
Fact: Bush's tax cuts have helped the budget with increase revenues.

Another lie: Bush's spending can be the focus of the blame for the deficit.
Fact: The majority of increases to federal spending between 07 and 08, as well as historically for the last 40 years has been mandatory spending, not discretionary.

Horseshit.

Bush's tax cuts combined with his out-of-control spending are the prime contributors to the record deficit, and it started long before 2007.

[uofom3]

1) much of it is not under bush's control
2) it's not the number that is relevant
3) you're a moron for not understanding 1 or 2



the bottom bars show the political majorities in power - top president, bottom two the congress. Look during the BushI years and Clinton years... and see who was in power of the Congress for each (orange = republican, blue = democrat).

brilliant.

[uofom3]

I'd be richer than 50 cent.

Did you really just say that? Are you trying to talk down to a younger demographic or something or do you actually listen to that shit to think that was a smart comment.

Also, you offer no solutions.

[uofom3]

so then what do you believe in? if you stand for nothing, you'll fall for anything... which is what seems to be going on here.

Also... bobby isn't talking from a "right wing" standpoint... he's talking from the science of economics. it just happens to be that conservatives/republicans, in general, have a better grasp on economics. that's why they "are evil" and "have all the money".

[rwh11385]

Keep trying to gloss over the fact that Bush has given us the largest federal deficit in history.

1) much of it is not under bush's control
2) it's not the number that is relevant
3) you're a moron for not understanding 1 or 2



the bottom bars show the political majorities in power - top president, bottom two the congress. Look during the BushI years and Clinton years... and see who was in power of the Congress for each (orange = republican, blue = democrat).

[rwh11385]

When I said I was a staunch conservative, I meant that I sucked down anything the republicans told me without question - kinda like you.

Now I look at the issues from both sides.

I haven't disregarded any facts - especially not the lies that have been posted as facts.

You mean you didn't understand what was going on and now you just suck down on liberal bullshit instead of buying into republican doctrine?

What lies have been posted as facts?

I've been posting historical budgets numbers to show to you have no idea what's going on.

One lie you posted: Deficits can be blamed on Bush's tax cuts.
Fact: Bush's tax cuts have helped the budget with increase revenues.

Another lie: Bush's spending can be the focus of the blame for the deficit.
Fact: The majority of increases to federal spending between 07 and 08, as well as historically for the last 40 years has been mandatory spending, not discretionary.

[Lair]

+1

When someone proves your viewpoint is from ignorance of the situation or out of context, you simply move onto the next, which is usually a random jab based on opinion or emotion.

And then if all your cards are played, you go back to an argument that was already shown to be ignorant and irrelevant, running in circles without any FACTS or NUMBERS... just more links to liberal drivel.

Keep trying to gloss over the fact that Bush has given us the largest federal deficit in history.

It's just 'liberal drivel'.

BTW, I wish I had a dollar for every time you rightie extremists have used the word "liberal".

I'd be richer than 50 cent.

[Lair]

You can call yourself a moderate if you want. It doesn't change the fact that you said right there, in bold in case you can't see it, how you flip flopped.

If you are saying that your change in position is OK, then obviously your perception of McCain's changed position (that really isn't a change in the real world, only in you mind) on taxes is OK too.

The reason we are calling you a liberal is that 1) You disregard facts 2) You obviously embrace the trash that the liberal media produces 3) You espouse multiple liberal view points 4) You think we are extreme rightists 5) You argue from emotion and think that just because you said something earlier, that you can just disregard it when it becomes inconvenient.

I am enjoying this really. You are the epitome of the classic liberal who doesn't think anything through. You just react. That is why your comments on 'experience because you are older' and that you have "real life" behind you all the more laughable.

Go ahead, keep digging your own hole. It seems to be the only thing that liberals are capable of doing on their own anyway.

When I said I was a staunch conservative, I meant that I sucked down anything the republicans told me without question - kinda like you.

Now I look at the issues from both sides.

I haven't disregarded any facts - especially not the lies that have been posted as facts.

[Lair]

As educated people, we don't enjoy people being completely ignorant and making claims based upon their poor understanding.

You can have your opinions, but at least be educated with your support.

"Until you start spreading lies about people"
Funny you don't have a problem with spreading bullshit about everything or anyone.

Valid? HAHAHHAHA.

I can go back through this thread and point out the outright lies that you rightwing extremists have posted.

Can you point out any lies I've posted?

[rwh11385]

The reason we are calling you a liberal is that 1) You disregard facts 2) You obviously embrace the trash that the liberal media produces 3) You espouse multiple liberal view points 4) You think we are extreme rightists 5) You argue from emotion and think that just because you said something earlier, that you can just disregard it when it becomes inconvenient.

I am enjoying this really. You are the epitome of the classic liberal who doesn't think anything through. You just react.

+1

When someone proves your viewpoint is from ignorance of the situation or out of context, you simply move onto the next, which is usually a random jab based on opinion or emotion.

And then if all your cards are played, you go back to an argument that was already shown to be ignorant and irrelevant, running in circles without any FACTS or NUMBERS... just more links to liberal drivel.

[Hallen]

Again - if you think I'm a "liberal" then you have no idea what a liberal is. Take a look back through this thread. There have been more lies and derogatory comments made about Obama (and me) than i can count.

Looks like hate-filled rightwing extremism to me.

Here's a challenge for you: Go back through this thread and point out ANYTHING that I've posted that "swings to and fro".

I'll wait.

Facts that they pulled out of their asses.
I'm a moderate. I embrace tenets from the left and the right. I used to be a staunch conservative, and then Bush' POS father came along and fucked that up. As bad as he was - his son is ten times worse.
But don't let the facts get in your way.

You can call yourself a moderate if you want. It doesn't change the fact that you said right there, in bold in case you can't see it, how you flip flopped.

If you are saying that your change in position is OK, then obviously your perception of McCain's changed position (that really isn't a change in the real world, only in you mind) on taxes is OK too.

The reason we are calling you a liberal is that 1) You disregard facts 2) You obviously embrace the trash that the liberal media produces 3) You espouse multiple liberal view points 4) You think we are extreme rightists 5) You argue from emotion and think that just because you said something earlier, that you can just disregard it when it becomes inconvenient.

I am enjoying this really. You are the epitome of the classic liberal who doesn't think anything through. You just react. That is why your comments on 'experience because you are older' and that you have "real life" behind you all the more laughable.

Go ahead, keep digging your own hole. It seems to be the only thing that liberals are capable of doing on their own anyway.