Bush Impeachment Hearing

[Lair]

I got $175 + $20 shipping for the old one off my 318 cab. I listed it on Ebay with a BIN and the auction got pulled. I relisted it and it got pulled again, but some recycler in Vermont bought it before the second pull.

[nando]

old cats are worth a lot in scrap metal - so disposing them is pretty easy. E30 cats *are* heavy, and are worth about $200 in scrap. Some fucking meth heads stole the cat off my parts car before I had a chance to sell it too.

[uofom3]

They actually create very, very little back pressure. Why do ultra high-end aftermarket companies like Novitec (they tune ferarris and such) keep stock cat converters, and only mess with the exhaust? Converters are not a tight spot in an exhaust system. They add only a few pounds of back pressure, not enough to have any measurable effect. And last I checked, they don't weigh 60lbs either. 60lbs would be a LOT of platinum, like $8 billion worth.

The CAT that was on my e30 m3 weighed at least 45 lbs.

Also, CATS get clogged. It would be a reasonable assertion that if someone is driving around on flat tires they probably aren't in any hurry to replace their CAT for a lot of money because in most cases it isn't going to stop the car from running. So comparing a Novitec ferrari exhaust system that costs 8k versus the CAT on a 96 toyota tercel with no maintenance is not exactly a fair comparisson. The ironic thing is, I know more than one e30 m3 owner with tunable engine management system whos car ran cleaner once they got it professionally tuned with the aftermarket EMS.

I don't know the disposal process for a CAT converter, but I can't imagine that it is terribly esy or environmentally friendly with all of that built up in there.

Also, with ODB 2 cars that have multiple CATs... they weight adds up quicky. Not to mention the burder on the consumers when replacing the 2-4 o2 sensors costs upwards of 3-400 dollars... and because of that high cost they go unreplaced. As they fail, the car becomes less efficient as it is getting fed bogus information from being "burnt out" or "loaded up".

To me, that sounds like a much larger burden on the cars overall function and efficiency than loading a few more lbs in each tired. Again, I don't disagree with the reduction that could be had with tire inflation, but that sounds like a band-aid on a detached limb.

If this is the logic that people are going to follow (tire inflation), why don't people remove their spare tires? If you are just commuting around town, why drag an extra 20-30 lbs (or closer to 35 or 45 in the case of the X5) around town when you could just make a phone call and have a tow truck grab the car or someone bring you the spare?

[CorvallisBMW]

If this is the logic that they are following for cars... why not get rid of CAT-converters? You know how much back pressure those cause on motors? Talk about aiding in internal combustion inefficiency. Also, they add 30 to 60 lbs to a car - and it takes more gas to pull those things around. SO, why not ditch all cat converters and see if that helps gas prices? Oh wait! Then we will have more global warming! OH NOES!

They actually create very, very little back pressure. Why do ultra high-end aftermarket companies like Novitec (they tune ferarris and such) keep stock cat converters, and only mess with the exhaust? Converters are not a tight spot in an exhaust system. They add only a few pounds of back pressure, not enough to have any measurable effect. And last I checked, they don't weigh 60lbs either. 60lbs would be a LOT of platinum, like $8 billion worth.

[Lair]

before you want to jump on me,
I didn't come here to argue Politics,
I just got tired of Lairs same ole pic, so I helped him...

Here, Lair use this link for Political Pics....

http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/images/blbushsheep.htm

it's useless to argue with the right,
they are supplied with "Links"...
it comes with their GOP Membership Card, along with a years free membership in NAMBLA...

Thanks for the help, but I'm practicing Dubyaspeak. It seems to work well on the clueless.

[Lair]

now there's a national energy policy for you

O man is in the pocket of big-Tire

:rofl:

The next McCain campaign talking point?

[DarkWing6]

Obama's new ad campaign? Maybe an oportunity for some co-branding?

[Lair]

Proper inflation of tires is dependent on the weight of the vehicle and the tire size/construction. That why there is a recommended tire pressure and size in the owners manual of you car. The tire manufacture can't tell you unless they know the weight of the car.

God you are truly clueless.

Truly.

I've only had 70 or 80 sets of tires.

[gwb72tii]

My M3 went from less than 28mpg highway to almost 29 mpg with a bump up to 38 psi from 32.

Doesn't sound like much, but if you multiply it by a million, you'd have substantial savings.

now there's a national energy policy for you

O man is in the pocket of big-Tire

[rwh11385]

No, I know that's not what it hinges on entirely. However, that's what he's rallying around right now. He's making this point very,very openly about tires. That, and being free of oil in our lifetime.

Simply the comment being free of oil in our lifetime is enough to make a person shake their head and wonder if this guy really has a clue.

The answer is no. Clearly. Even Paris Hilton is making more sense now.

[rwh11385]

If a million people saved one mile per gallon every day, the fuel savings would be significant.

I don't know how to dumb it down any further for you, but don't let that stop your attempts at obfuscation.

You're making me smile.

You're assuming that two runs with 1mpg difference in means was significant to show an actual 1mpg difference in mpg instead of simply a possible variation around the same average mileage.

Sorry stats can't be dumbed down to college dropout level.

[andyman2487]

[Pinepig]

38 psi is improper? I run 40 psi in my truck tires.

Fuck. Get the tire manufacturers on the phone, stat!

Proper inflation of tires is dependent on the weight of the vehicle and the tire size/construction. That why there is a recommended tire pressure and size in the owners manual of you car. The tire manufacture can't tell you unless they know the weight of the car.

God you are truly clueless.

[Hallen]

naaa, nevermind

[BDK]

before you want to jump on me,
I didn't come here to argue Politics,
I just got tired of Lairs same ole pic, so I helped him...

Here, Lair use this link for Political Pics....

http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/images/blbushsheep.htm

it's useless to argue with the right,
they are supplied with "Links"...
it comes with their GOP Membership Card, along with a years free membership in NAMBLA...