Church and State - Time to bring back together?

[Farbin Kaiber]

Political endorsements from the pulpit are a fucking terrible idea and I hope those pastors get slammed for doing it. They're abusing their positions of power and influence to further their own political views.

That's what the OP was about. I guess I didn't bring quite the right info the first time around, or should have given more links.

Now, pastors who swindle their congregants out of funds for "Outreaches" and other church based profit gathering are trying to change the laws that allow them to have a tax exempt status basically in trade for not having the power to publicly back a politician/ballot measure. Now they want both.

So, do we as a 60%+ Christian based majority society, allow the very people who bring spiritual enlightenment to direct us to which pollster is best gonna cover their assets?

I say no, but what do you guys think of the very fiber this country was sewn together with being snipped, cut and modified to suit the needs of the politiburo?

[eric (^__^)]

well if what they're saying is funny, I care. The truth is always funny!

Bono is never funny let's just get that out on the table right away.

[DarkWing6]

Political endorsements from the pulpit are a fucking terrible idea and I hope those pastors get slammed for doing it. They're abusing their positions of power and influence to further their own political views.

I agree with you...but celebrities should be treated the same way. Who cares what Matt Damon or Bono has to say about the election?

[CorvallisBMW]

Political endorsements from the pulpit are a fucking terrible idea and I hope those pastors get slammed for doing it. They're abusing their positions of power and influence to further their own political views.

[TwoJ's]

Okay? Won't happen anyways.

[Farbin Kaiber]

If they want to argue the constitutionality of the law, they will not win.

And if they want to endorse a political candidate, I say let them do it. All they have to do is claim all of the donations they receive and pay taxes.

No one said it that way earlier in the thread when that's been the issue at the thread's core from the begining. Not starting a fight with anyone.

[TwoJ's]

If they want to argue the constitutionality of the law, they will not win.

And if they want to endorse a political candidate, I say let them do it. All they have to do is claim all of the donations they receive and pay taxes.

[Farbin Kaiber]

UPDATE

http://www.csmonitor.com/2008/0926/p03s02-uspo.html

So, Sunday, they are gonna do it, break the law so they can sue the IRS. It's begun. And I told you all.





The Rev. C. Welton Gaddy, president of the Interfaith Alliance (IA) in Washington, D.C., sees the current initiative as part of a political strategy.

"It is not accidental that the people who want the church to take on a political identity are the people who argue there's no separation of church and state in the Constitution and that there's been a misinterpretation of religious liberty all along," he says.

If houses of worship became "bastions of political partisanship, that would be a blow to the positive power of religion."

[eric (^__^)]

outsourcing eh

no wonder that shit broke so soon

[Farbin Kaiber]

"If I may direct you to one of my other fabulous threads..."

But, I didn't start that one. I had my people do it for me. ;)

[CorvallisBMW]

"If I may direct you to one of my other fabulous threads..."

ha ha so true

[eric (^__^)]

"If I may direct you to one of my other fabulous threads..."

[Farbin Kaiber]

Palin wants creation in schools huh

well I want a solid gold toilet but it aint in the cards

I wouldn't worry about her!

WTF? Wrong thread. Creation is here...

http://r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=118723

[eric (^__^)]

Cool. I should be a 3rd grade teacher! It would be awesome.

[CorvallisBMW]

lol sorry....Coming from a family of teachers, I tend to have strong opinions on education