crazy... Dems are seriously lowering the bar.

[blunttech]

This is Rove on Fox News:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNdtZGqZA2Y

" . . things that are, you know, bey . . beyo, bey . . b .b .b .beyond . th. . .th, th, th, the 100% truth test." You couldn't make this stuff up.

Just say it, "he's a liar"

thank you for this wonderful insightful contribution. they are all liars. you and i both know that. doesnt your fence need a fresh coat of paint?

[ragged325]

This is Rove on Fox News:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNdtZGqZA2Y

" . . things that are, you know, bey . . beyo, bey . . b .b .b .beyond . th. . .th, th, th, the 100% truth test." You couldn't make this stuff up.

Just say it, "he's a liar"

[Ral]

I'm not saying there's not some truth in what you are saying, but that article was written with a very distinct bias. Doesn't make it untrue, just makes me wonder what the rest of the story is. in fact, at the beginning of one of the articles, it says clearly that the state pays dividends from tax money invested. So, what that sounds like to me is that it's the people of Alaska's money (it's their state that's being drilled- see Pinepig's response) that was invested wisely, and the people of Alaska are seeing that return. Not sure, but there's some small details like this that get glossed over in articles like what you posted above that could dramatically alter the substance of the article's accusations, which undercuts the article's credibility. While the accusations may be true, that article is half the story.

also, drop the Meth thing. It doesn't really have anything to do with Gov. Palin. Every place has its problems, blaming Gov. Palin for Meth is like blaming Janet Reno (Gov. of AZ) for illigal immigrants.

[ragged325]

I thought there was a thread around here about how people hate the gov't giving handouts to people for having lots of kids. Sorry. I thought they'd just spend the money on booze and crack. I was just trying to jump on the bandwagon. I guess you're right that people will spend the money to feed their families. I apologize.

What gives you that idea, been there before?

Sounds like a typical lib who always wants to think the worst of people -- not the best.

[Vedubin01]

I'd say, not for long. That data is from 2003.

What gives you that idea, been there before?

[ragged325]

I'd say, not for long. That data is from 2003.

[Vedubin01]

Does anyone want to take a guess at how much of that $3,250/person goes to purchase crystal meth? I would think that the longer you use crystal, the less able you are to afford it. I'm just taking a stab in the dark here, but doesn't it seem likely that Alaska supports a lot of drug habits.

Funny thing is looks like more people on the west coast, including where you live in Ca, use meth more than Alaska!

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/meth/map/

[Vedubin01]

Alaskans got a $3250 credit......That's good.

What's the median income of alaskans?

• Median Household Income: $59,393
• Per capita Income: $26,919
• Male full-time, year round, workers median income: $48,703
• Female full-time, year round, workers median income: $36,655
• Families below poverty level: 8.2%
• Individuals below poverty level: 10.9%

http://projects.washingtonpost.com/elections/keyraces/census/ak/

[DSP74]

Alaskans got a $3250 credit......That's good.

What's the median income of alaskans?

[ragged325]

Does anyone want to take a guess at how much of that $3,250/person goes to purchase crystal meth? I would think that the longer you use crystal, the less able you are to afford it. I'm just taking a stab in the dark here, but doesn't it seem likely that Alaska supports a lot of drug habits.

[kylebes1]

Palin did two things. She increased the oil tax from a 10 percent gross revenue tax to a 25 percent profits tax. Then she increased the payouts to residents by $1,200. Wasn't the oil industry going to pour all of that $6 billion dollars extra they've paid Alaskans the last fiscal year into researching alternative fuels? I'm confused. Didn't the oil companies pass that extra cost onto me? Instead of drilling more in Alaska, aren't the oil companies going to get oil from other places that aren't as expensive?

Didn't McCain say that federal windfall profits taxes on the oil industry would "increase our dependence on foreign oil and hinder exactly the same kind of domestic exploration and production we need."?

Another paradox from the Republicans. I think I have used that twice this week on r3v. Keep them coming guys.

So what your saying is that you WANT to rely on oil. And your willing to bet that if you have enough oil, you won't be gouged?

Hmm Interesting viewpoint.

There is no dependence where there is plenty of the product. I guess I should clairfy, that I am not totally against "alternative fuels" however, the technology is not available yet. A good product would not need huge govt subsidy to come to market -- if it was good enough it would be viable enough on its own. I do not believe that subsidies encourage development, there are enough engineers and business people who want to get rich on their own -- when the right "energy" comes around, it will happen.

[DSP74]

So what your saying is that you WANT to rely on oil. And your willing to bet that if you have enough oil, you won't be gouged?

Hmm Interesting viewpoint.

Palin did two things. She increased the oil tax from a 10 percent gross revenue tax to a 25 percent profits tax. Then she increased the payouts to residents by $1,200. Wasn't the oil industry going to pour all of that $6 billion dollars extra they've paid Alaskans the last fiscal year into researching alternative fuels? I'm confused. Didn't the oil companies pass that extra cost onto me? Instead of drilling more in Alaska, aren't the oil companies going to get oil from other places that aren't as expensive?

Maybe it is just me, or I don't understand your context. TO HELL WITH ALTERNATIVE FUELS. I don't want alternative fuels, I want gas. They should be investing that money to tap the oil in ANWR, the Bakken Formation (Dakota, Montana), and oil shelf off Brazil. We NEED to do this, give up the bullshit Ethanol, and shove a finger up Venezulas ass. Anybody seen Dubai recently? Anybody know why Dubai is becoming the next banking/luxury/entertainment capital of the world? It certainly isn't with alternative fuels.