Economy, Engineered Collapse?

[uofom3]

did you guys get this in a chain-letter email or something?

seriously, you wonder why this place is screwed up - everyone wants to blame our problems on a stupid conspiracy or evil corporations instead of their own dumb actions. Our government is obviously incompetent, do you really think a government responsible for such wonderfully sucessful schemes like social security, medicare, the war in iraq and other nonsense is capable of running a super secret scheme to crush our economy behind our backs? really?

Some logic, in an otherwise lost thread.

[Pinepig]

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How much for a tin foil hat shipped to 30342?

Jesus guys, make your own.

http://zapatopi.net/afdb/

[VacMan]

Ok bud, I don't get any news via email. What I posted here was my own comments based on a flyer I received in the local newspaper regarding the NAU. Not just myself but many people received them as they where slipped in with the newspaper.

The pics of Sara Palin, yes that came in a email and I posted them for entertainment purposes only.

Its ass holes like you that like to talk shit on other people that turn me off from R3v.

E30Tech 'refugee', please bitch. But hey, you want me gone, thats fine too. Nothing here of any value anyways.

Why do you need a tin hat, your head appears to be firmly planted up your ass anyways.

Ok, so in the last 2 months let's see what you've contributed to R3V.

You:

Asked if you should paint an M20 block orange (who fucking cares)

Started a thread about the First Amendment (political)

Started a bogus thread about Palin where you posted poorly photoshopped pics as real (idiotic and political)

Started this thread about the imaginary Amero and the "engineered collapse of our economy." (political)

You've been a fantastic contributor to this forum. Why the hell are you here if there's nothing here of any value? Nobody will care that you're gone. Maybe you should spend more time out in the real world and less time arguing political bullshit on the internet. That way you can eventually afford to move out of your parent's house.

[Borat]

Thank god, those first few posts had me worried. good to see that some of you lot still have some common sense about you.

Those tin hats shipping international?

[Ral]

^^ I bet the Chinese make real great knock-off version

[Joey Link]

good point. Then again, Obama's economic plan is no different than that of Bill Clinton, and he was president during the biggest economic boom in 35 years.

Clinton was a much better president than Obama would be. He had a pretty good grasp on economics, cut spending way down, and conserved the countries money (even during an economic boom) instead of spending it on social programs. Clinton also inherited the economic boom, which started near the end of HW's term. Credit does need to be given to him for not messing it up and keeping it alive for eight years. Obama and Clinton are VERY different Democrats.

[BigSam]

Funny, because I agree with you about Clinton being a far better president than Obama could, but a fair amount of blame for what is going on right now can be placed on him. Stay with me here.

1933: Glass-Steagal Act is passed. Post Great Depression, the American government felt that banks needed to be restricted in what they can and can't spend other people's money on. This created the FDIC as well, which insured all commercial bank customers up to $100,000, I'm sure you have seen the signs in your local bank. The FDIC only insures commercial banks, not investment banks like those that are currently collapsing. It also regulated banks in what they could do, to whom they could lend money, and with whom they could do business. All is well.

1999: After 20 years of lobbying by banks, Clinton decides to repeal the G-S Act, save for the FDIC. This allows banks to do what they did, causing what happened. He essentially let the retarded child off the leash, and now he has been found fucking the dog. Had the banks been left on the leash, we would be fine.

Investment banks are very prone to taking big risks for the possibility of big gain, and that is what they have been doing with the sub-prime mortgage market. It just bit everyone in the ass.

[CorvallisBMW]

Jesus guys, make your own.

http://zapatopi.net/afdb/

Wow, you are pretty dense.

It's called a "joke"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joke

[Pinepig]

Wow, you are pretty dense.

It's called a "joke"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joke

Well fuck aren't you the quick one. Do you really think I thought they were really asking for someone to ship them a AFDB.


May want to go look at the wiki joke link yourself, try sarcasm for a follow up.

[Funkmasta]

good point. Then again, Obama's economic plan is no different than that of Bill Clinton, and he was president during the biggest economic boom in 35 years.

And the fluke timing of the internet/e-commerce boom had nothing to do with that?

Darin, what do you REALLY know about Clinton's economic plan? You were 11 years old while he was in office...

[Charlie]

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1843168,00.html?cnn=yes

Seems fitting.

-Charlie

[Aptyp]

Nice being broke when economy is collapsing.

I doubt current government could engineer anything, and I don't believe in Dark Hand behind every government action. If enough people vote, or pick-up arms, we CAN have a revolution and change to suit our needs (and give Florida back to Spain).

What pisses me off the most about current situation, is that a lot of people by law have lost their homes, and by the law were evicted and thrown out. Now government is aiding those banks that crippled many families by bailing them out.

NO, give people their homes back. Give people money to pay off the banks. Not allow those banks double their investment on every given credit, LET investment banks collapse. For better or worse, I would rather have government take money out of my paycheck for the house. Hell, since government dictates drilling (and what not) and gives incentives to oil companies, government should have a state-government based capitalistic stake in profits.

Not pundits and lobbyists and campaign donations. Funny that US government wrote that provision into Iraqi constitution, but never thought of doing it here.

My view is slightly socialistic in this sense, and I see flaws in it. I am also a strong defender of government ignoring people, who whining about stuff that are not an imminent threat. Millions of Americans losing homes is a threat to me (unlike gay marriage and video games violence).

[Farbin Kaiber]

Nice being broke when economy is collapsing.

I doubt current government could engineer anything, and I don't believe in Dark Hand behind every government action. If enough people vote, or pick-up arms, we CAN have a revolution and change to suit our needs (and give Florida back to Spain).

What pisses me off the most about current situation, is that a lot of people by law have lost their homes, and by the law were evicted and thrown out. Now government is aiding those banks that crippled many families by bailing them out.

NO, give people their homes back. Give people money to pay off the banks. Not allow those banks double their investment on every given credit, LET investment banks collapse. For better or worse, I would rather have government take money out of my paycheck for the house. Hell, since government dictates drilling (and what not) and gives incentives to oil companies, government should have a state-government based capitalistic stake in profits.

Not pundits and lobbyists and campaign donations. Funny that US government wrote that provision into Iraqi constitution, but never thought of doing it here.

My view is slightly socialistic in this sense, and I see flaws in it. I am also a strong defender of government ignoring people, who whining about stuff that are not an imminent threat. Millions of Americans losing homes is a threat to me (unlike gay marriage and video games violence).

Obama is on our forum?

[kronus]

Can we please have anarchy now? I want to shoot stuff and eat cup noodles.

[eric (^__^)]

I'm so glad I bought that sand rail...