Bank Bailout, Dumping Market, Next?

[Ray Smoodiver]

woah over 700 points down. Republicans voting against their party purely because an election is 5 weeks away. It's going to be an interesting few weeks.

[mikegar]

yeah human nature isnt human nature. todays human nature is fueled by media. yesteryears nature was fueled by instinct and the need to survive. we are no longer humans. we are slaves to a system, juming through hoops to get what we "need" never really satisfied with what we have we jump through more hoops to where our sole purpose in life is to jump through hoops. and when you ask "why do i have to jump through hoops. hoops seem rather non related to anything or even pertinent" you will never get a straight foward answer cause there is no more straight foward answers. they all died with our souls.

[golde30]

i own my business, so i dont have to worry about my employer going out of business, i do however have to think about keeping my employees employed so that they can support their families....and that is stressfull.

[Jand3rson]

im not gonna end myself today. im gonna live my life not giving a care to who has a solution to this FAILING society. im gonna live with out fear that i might not have a job tomorrow cause the company i work for has colapsed. no im gonna live my life without a care or a fear, cause i know for a fact that either way shit is gonna hit the fan, shit is gona suck. have fun now in the present cause god knows its not promised tomorrow.

I remember when it was cool to think like this.

Then I had a kid, and realized that my family was the most important thing in the world, and nothing was more terrifying than the idea of losing my job and not being able to give them everything they need. Someday when you grow up, you'll realize that, too.

[mikegar]

why wait?

end yourself today

im not gonna end myself today. im gonna live my life not giving a care to who has a solution to this FAILING society. im gonna live with out fear that i might not have a job tomorrow cause the company i work for has colapsed. no im gonna live my life without a care or a fear, cause i know for a fact that either way shit is gonna hit the fan, shit is gona suck. have fun now in the present cause god knows its not promised tomorrow.

[TwoJ's]

yeah i see what youre saying, but what i ment by my statement was that us humans have created a VERY dangerous society. and in a sence we have begun to devolve. we lack the basic instincts to survive. instead of striving for what we need to survive most of us strive for stuff that we want. our wasteful consumerism is the life blood of our economy, but adversly its also the down fall of our planet and species. by were all gonna die anyways i mean live life have fun cause tomorrow IS NOT promised to anyone.

Wow, that is extremely original and insightful. What you fail to realize is that human nature is still human nature. It is no different that it ever has been, but different things are available to us now.

Same toilet, different shit.

[Jand3rson]

The last few posts remind me of a little song...

'Cause life is a game that no one wins
But you deserve a head start, the way you're life's goin'
So throw in the towel, 'cause your life ain't shit,
Now take the towel and hang yourself with it!

Life's short and hard, like bodybuilding elf,
So save the planet, and kill yourself!
If you're feelin' down and out with what your life is all about
Then lift your head up high, and blow your brains out!

[mikegar]

yeah i see what youre saying, but what i ment by my statement was that us humans have created a VERY dangerous society. and in a sence we have begun to devolve. we lack the basic instincts to survive. instead of striving for what we need to survive most of us strive for stuff that we want. our wasteful consumerism is the life blood of our economy, but adversly its also the down fall of our planet and species. by were all gonna die anyways i mean live life have fun cause tomorrow IS NOT promised to anyone.

[uofom3]

why wait?

end yourself today

thats the condensed version of my ramblings

[rwh11385]

i think its funny how people say stuff like this. or things like oh yeah i think we can win the super bowl this year, we only need to beat whoever. the way i see it is we are all fuct anyways. this world is too small and we are all too stupid to live in harmony with eachother and this earth. my thoughts are this, its all gonna crash, if not now then later, its inevitable. there is no right or wrong in this situation, just which will allow us to crash the softest. were all gonna die anyways so who cares?

why wait?

end yourself today

[uofom3]

whats not realistic about what i just said?

people in general don't want to say fuck it to life, the world, other people, etc. Obviously, we can't all get along all the time. Obviously, things are going to fail.

Most people don't say "we're all going to die anyway" and the go about living their life like that. If that were the case, society would be a SERIOUS mess (far worse than it is today).

I just think that is off-base to suggest that society as a whole operates that way. There is something inside most people to strive for stuff, to want stuff, to do well, etc. You may not be totally wrong about some of the things you said, but people in general don't operate on a "fuck it i'm going to die" system. This starts to turn the conversation into philosophy, or behavioral economics/finance and that starts us down a deep hole.

[mikegar]

whats not realistic about what i just said?

[uofom3]

i think its funny how people say stuff like this. or things like oh yeah i think we can win the super bowl this year, we only need to beat whoever. the way i see it is we are all fuct anyways. this world is too small and we are all too stupid to live in harmony with eachother and this earth. my thoughts are this, its all gonna crash, if not now then later, its inevitable. there is no right or wrong in this situation, just which will allow us to crash the softest. were all gonna die anyways so who cares?

that isn't very optimistic, or even realistic.

[rwh11385]

right but people in general are not capable of owning up to their mistakes. No one wants to be personally accountable for their actions.

The greed of some of the people on wall street will be their ruin, and let honest firms step up to the plate and be handled. The markets can work efficiently. People need to let the forces do what it is that they do. Period.

BUT - everyone thinks that the government must be the answer to their problems... so we're fucked either way.

Saying no one is personally accountable for their actions and then going "oh well" isn't the way to win in the long run.

Americans are spoiled brats. Babying them won't help a damned thing. There's plenty of drugged out Brits on the DOLE across the pond if you want to see a good reason why handouts are a bad idea.

Those 18 year olds don't need a prize for being capable of breathing. They need to realize prices fluctuate, emerging markets want food and oil, and that they won't always get their way or what they want without working for it.

[Jand3rson]

Take it to PM's before I shitcan this whole thread.