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    Ex Landlord Problems

    Alright I want to post this up to see what you guys think and also who you think is in the wrong as well as what you think I should do. Please don't thread shit with a stupid "you're screwed" post.


    So here's the deal. In August 10th of 2007 I signed a 1 year lease for a one bedroom guest house attached by the garage to this lady's house whom I thought was a sane individual. I soon found out she was highly unstable. It started with little things like don't park your car on my part of the driveway, which was like 20ft wide, but either way I abided with no confrontation. Then it lead to things like, no people in my apartment after 10pm on week nights and 12am on weekends. Rather irritated, I complied. So time went by and the little things kept being pointed out to me by her. I have a manilla folder full of 5"x7" notes that I received from her at least 3 or 4 days out of each week and I have a Voicemail box full of 2 minute voicemails from her that came almost daily. I never missed a rent check, it was always paid in full and on time. I knew I was locked in to the year contract so I just felt with the shit and prayed for August 10th 2008. Her biggest thing she nit picked was my girlfriend. She was well aware of us having premarital sex and she, being a jahova's witness, did not approve of this. I couldn't have cared less so I just kept pushing on.

    Then one day in March or 2008 I got her infamous early morning voicmail from her saying she couldn't do it anymore and that she would call off the lease agreement because she wasn't getting enough sleep because she knew what was "going on" in the apartment between my girlfriend and I. So very excited I started looking so a new apartment.

    Because I work quickly I found another apartment and put the deposit down on the place and set up a move in date. I was putting some stuff in my car one day and she approached me and said she didn't want me to move out right away and that she had a date planned FOR ME to move out. Since I had. Already started moving all my stuff out I continued to over the days of April 8th, 9th, and 10th. Knowing I was going to take a few extra days to get the place cleaned up and get the rest of my stuff out of there, I made out 4 separate checks for a daily rent check for the extra days that I was there past the 30 days that the previous rent check had paid for. I thought that since she wanted me out, she would do her part to find someone to rent the place to in the month between when she called and when she started to see me packing up and loading my stuff. But she hadn't. So now its my fault for funding a place too quickly.


    So anyway I continued to move since I wasn't about to pay 1100 to her for another month on top of the 500 deposit I had just out down on the new place. Each day that I still had stuff inside and was finishing up cleaning, I put a check at her door in her message box. Each check was for $35.50.

    I continued moving out and in to my new place. I left her apartment SPOTLESS. I got the carpets steam cleaned and made the place look like new.

    A few months later, I get a letter in the mail from her saying she has contacted her attorney and will press charges if I don't pay the rent through August 10th 2008 and for the "damages" I caused to the apartment. I talked with my attorney and he suggested I sit on it and not comply with her advances. So that's what I did. August rolls around and I get this huge envelope with like 25 receipts in it. The receipts ranged from carpet cleaning, which was already done, to other things like replacing the counter tops which were in no way in bad shape. Rather nice actually.

    This time I talked to my attorney and he suggested I send her a notarized letter denying her claims, refusing to pay and as well state a claim of my own which entitled me getting my deposit back and her dropping the charges.

    I heard nothing for two months until today. She called me and left a Voicemail that was once again, 2 minutes long. She once again stated she wants the rent paid through August 10th and she wants the "damages" covered as well. She wrapped up her second message by saying, "if we take this to court you will lose and you will have to pay your own attorney fees as well as mine and I will take $100 payments until the whole sum is paid for".

    Anyway, I haven't called her back yet because quite frankly, I don't know what to say or do.


    I know it was a long post but can some people shed some light on this subject and make some suggestions??


    TIA





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    #2
    I would say keep listening to your lawyer.

    Edit: Did you take pictures on your way out?
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      #3
      Lawyers tend to be the best kind of people to get this kind of advice from. Can yo post up the lease agreement? DO you have pictures of the place from when you moved out? She probably can't get shit out of you, and she's just trying to intimidate you, since she verbally told you to move out on a specific date.
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        #4
        do exactly what your lawyer advises, and if i were you i'd make sure i had digital cd copies of all the voicemails, especially the one where she said she wanted you out. i would also sit down with pen and paper and write, to the best of your knowledge, every relevant detail by date from the time you moved in to the day you left for future reference. make sure to note any corroborating details like the voicemails and their dates. pics of the interior would be a big plus.

        did you actually recieve communication from her attorney? getting receipts etc is not the same. sounds like to me she's blowing smoke about the attorney part and is hoping to scare you into coughing up the dough. she also has no ability to make you pay $100/mo no matter the outcome.

        i would promise her with a countersuit for time/money/mental anguish for her threats.
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          #5
          Please tell me you snapped some pics.
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            #6
            Originally posted by george graves View Post
            Please tell me you snapped some pics.
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              #7
              If you go to court and you have the documentation you say you have, you will be fine.
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                #8
                I don't know how long or how descriptive your guys lease ageement was, but basically there are generally provisions to cop out of the lease, and u should read your lease carefully to see if she had the right to harass you with those curfew hours. By accepting you with the lease she should understand your rights as a tenant. So on so forth.

                When she told you that she "this wouldnt workout, I need you to move out" that was pretty much oral confirmation tht she wanted to terminate the lease agreement.

                It seems like you are taking the right steps with your lawyer, but if you carefully read your lease (unless she had some douche lawyer draft it), it should be very simple and clear to read, and definetely in YOUR favor.

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                  #9
                  Id agree with the rest of the guys, Listen to your lawyer. Keep all documents and you should be fine. Before and after pics from move in date and move out date would be awesome.
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                    #10
                    +1 on the pics. they will be your bread and butter. Also if you have any receipts of the carpet cleaning you did, or any other receipts of that nature. I'll have to dig in my book to see exactly what is legal on her part. I'll get back to this thread later on tonight or early tomorrow morning.

                    On a side note: her being your landlord doesn't give her the right to pry herself into your personal life, the comments and messages she left could be considered harassment and on that you should be able to counter sue her. AND unless it was stated in your lease about the times when you can or cannot have guests over, her adding that to rules of the lease or w.e would void the lease I think.

                    and +1 on listen to your lawyer. Just make sure you are clear about every little detail about your past year there.
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                      #11
                      oh man, what a nightmare! Best of luck. If this goes to court, you'll be fine.
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                        #12
                        In response to a few of you, no I did not take pictures. Very stupid mistake to make when all it would do is cover my ass if something were to happen. Like I don't know, THIS!!

                        Yeah it really sucks but I have to man up and take whatever comes. I have enough to prove that she was off her rocker though. I can just show the court the letters and notes she sent me over the 8 months I was there. I still ace all the voicemails as well and I have recorded them to my computer and have them saved on a flash drive.

                        Thanks for the responses guys. I really need the advice.
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by E30_fiend View Post
                          In response to a few of you, no I did not take pictures. Very stupid mistake to make when all it would do is cover my ass if something were to happen. Like I don't know, THIS!!

                          Yeah it really sucks but I have to man up and take whatever comes. I have enough to prove that she was off her rocker though. I can just show the court the letters and notes she sent me over the 8 months I was there. I still ace all the voicemails as well and I have recorded them to my computer and have them saved on a flash drive.

                          Thanks for the responses guys. I really need the advice.

                          You will win anytime, sit and wait for the fun to begin. The court will side with you if you in fact have the letters, tapes of voice mail, and witness IE. your girlfriend.
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                            #14
                            That really sucks bro. I hate people that try to make you live by their ideals. Hopefully she crams this whole mess snuggly up her ass and leaves ya alone.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Vedubin01 View Post
                              You will win anytime, sit and wait for the fun to begin. The court will side with you if you in fact have the letters, tapes of voice mail, and witness IE. your girlfriend.

                              Word.

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                              Thanks mang
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