Guy commits suicide live on a body building forum

[VacMan]

This just popped up on my RSS feed from The Smoking Gun. Sounds like the same dude.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2008/1124082biggs1.html?link=rssfeed

[blunttech]

Did he drop any good loot?

im not sure i know what you mean but i know youre not stupid enough to make fun of a suicide. ,, or are you? maybe you can explain yourself

[Collin]

Did he drop any good loot?

[blunttech]

unfortunately it has happened about 3 times, I was close to one (family) and the other two were just basic friends. I know the statement was ignorant but it is how I feel about the subject based on my observations and what I knew from these 3 people.
But no, I have no idea how clinical depression affects ones mind. I wish I did a little more, because as it is now I just see people kill themselves and instantly consider them weak for not sticking with it.
I know full well that this isn't the right view to have but it is a hard habit to break when it conflicts with my own personal observations and feelings.

Sorry if I offended anyone with my previous comments, I know this subject can be very touchy.

you cant offend me dude. its just a discussion. ive witnessed it first hand when i was 14. i never really understood it either but it sure made an impression on me

[Jparkr]

thats a really ignorant statement. do you know anything about clinical depression? i guarantee you in your lifetime youll know someone who blows their head off or intentionally overdoses or offs themselves in some other way. i just hope you arent too close to them.
i wish heeter were here to list the statistics but theres a whole hell of a lot of people who are clinically depressed and end up taking their own lives

unfortunately it has happened about 3 times, I was close to one (family) and the other two were just basic friends. I know the statement was ignorant but it is how I feel about the subject based on my observations and what I knew from these 3 people.
But no, I have no idea how clinical depression affects ones mind. I wish I did a little more, because as it is now I just see people kill themselves and instantly consider them weak for not sticking with it.
I know full well that this isn't the right view to have but it is a hard habit to break when it conflicts with my own personal observations and feelings.

Sorry if I offended anyone with my previous comments, I know this subject can be very touchy.

[Turf1600]

Well, i know what it's like to hit rock bottom and to have a serious suicide plan. I've dealt with depression and a mild form of autism for a long time, so I know how that messes up the way you think and approach life. If you've never been seriously depressed, you likely have no idea what it's like.

Even after the "help" i've received, after working my ass off at a hard job, taking some time off from school, I still hate life and still often think about how easy it would be to off myself. To some people, life offers no reward, and when you get the idea of suicide in your head, it doesn't want to leave. I haven't lived a truly hard life, but to me it is damn near impossible to set some life goals or to find some meaningful reason for me to carry on, and it is about impossible to be talked out of how much I think life sucks. I'm basically taking everybody's word for it when they say that things will eventually get better when I find something that I really like to do.

Read some existentialist books. Life isn't about living up to other people's expectations or meeting that status quo.

[E30 Wagen]

Well, i know what it's like to hit rock bottom and to have a serious suicide plan. I've dealt with depression and a mild form of autism for a long time, so I know how that messes up the way you think and approach life. If you've never been seriously depressed, you likely have no idea what it's like.

Even after the "help" i've received, after working my ass off at a hard job, taking some time off from school, I still hate life and still often think about how easy it would be to off myself. To some people, life offers no reward, and when you get the idea of suicide in your head, it doesn't want to leave. I haven't lived a truly hard life, but to me it is damn near impossible to set some life goals or to find some meaningful reason for me to carry on, and it is about impossible to be talked out of how much I think life sucks. I'm basically taking everybody's word for it when they say that things will eventually get better when I find something that I really like to do.

[blunttech]

what a weak, chicken shit way out. I don't understand why people do this.
life is hard for a reason, just put your head down and plow through the hard parts. There are only hard parts in life because there are such amazing, good parts of it. It is dumb to end your life when the good stops. There has to be fucking balance.

Sorry i just have no respect for anyone who kills themselves

thats a really ignorant statement. do you know anything about clinical depression? i guarantee you in your lifetime youll know someone who blows their head off or intentionally overdoses or offs themselves in some other way. i just hope you arent too close to them.
i wish heeter were here to list the statistics but theres a whole hell of a lot of people who are clinically depressed and end up taking their own lives

[DCColegrove]

Good God...

At least he didn't go and shoot up his school...

[SamE30e]

Messed up.
Show's some people are sick too.

[mtechnik]

Yup saw the article on Yahoo News as well.

No doubting it now.

[Edev]

http://news.aol.com/article/teen-commits-suicide-live-on-web/256594

[TwoJ's]

what a weak, chicken shit way out. I don't understand why people do this.
life is hard for a reason, just put your head down and plow through the hard parts. There are only hard parts in life because there are such amazing, good parts of it. It is dumb to end your life when the good stops. There has to be fucking balance.

Sorry i just have no respect for anyone who kills themselves

What you clearly fail to realize; and may not understand, is that some people have bad issues because of how they were treated as a kid. I listen to children being interviewed by social workers every day, and some of the shit I hear makes me sick to my stomach.

I used to think exactly how you do, "What a cowardly way out." But now that I'm older, and I have learned shit, I understand why people do it. They are just fucked up in the head; be it their fault or someone else's.

But please, don't generalize and call everyone who commits suicide a chicken shit. In your lifetime you will likely never even approach the struggles many 10 year olds have already gone through.

[eric (^__^)]

[der affe]

i know, i had to come back with a sarcastic answer.
i think the doc is wrong, but with the food intake you have to have to maintain weight/growth, you will need to be careful to keep it extra clean as you get older.

you are going to be in for joint issues sooner than a normal person would be from heavy lifting though. if your gym doesn't have hammer stregnth machines, look into one that does. you will be better off in the long run to use them when you heavy lift. hammer stregnth was developed to help take as much load off of the joint, but still involve the most muscle.

i think it is time for more prescription drugs so my leg will stop feeling like it is on fire! HA HA slight hypocrisy there (they are for my surgery)

back OT: suicide = the easy way out/bullshit