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[Miasma]

[Miasma]

[Ferdinand]

Mr Canadian master, we all know you support Obama. Why such the double standard?

I don't know what you mean. I do support Obama. At least I would have supported him if I'd had the opportunity to vote in your elections.

How would supporting Obama present a double standard? Seriously, I'm curious. Please explain.

[tofubento]

I don't know what you mean. I do support Obama. At least I would have supported him if I'd had the opportunity to vote in your elections.

How would supporting Obama present a double standard? Seriously, I'm curious. Please explain.

Not even going to touch that one.

[mikegar]

Not even going to touch that one.

why do individuals feel the need to put this? if your not gonna touch it why announce it? same with the ibtl. whats the point? to bump post count?

[mrsleeve]

I don't know what you mean. I do support Obama. At least I would have supported him if I'd had the opportunity to vote in your elections.

How would supporting Obama present a double standard? Seriously, I'm curious. Please explain.

He thinks because since obama is a socialist that all this freedom talk and constitutional rights on you part and you open support of Obama is a double standard. (I did not vote for obama as I don not like his voting record an thought his lack of experience was a major hindrance to his ability to lead this country)

[napabavarian]

i like turtles.

Medium rare? 590 8 round turtle dispatcher

[Ferdinand]

How would supporting Obama present a double standard? Seriously, I'm curious. Please explain.

Not even going to touch that one.

Oh, hang on, I think I get it now. This is about Obama's proposed gun controls, and how those relate to everybody's Constitutional right to bear arms like chain guns and rocket launchers, correct?

Personally, I really don't see why 9-yr old kids should be allowed to fire machine guns, but hey, what do I know?

what was pointed out earlier about cars and safety equipment...instead of trying to make people better drivers we make them dumber by making driving...well no longer driving...its aiming and pointing a 2 ton vehicle.

It seems that higher priority should be given to properly teaching 8-yr olds to aim and point Uzi machine guns.

On a related note, US cars need these expensive automatic Tire Pressure Monitoring Systems to flash an idiot light on the dash to alert the driver when the vehicle's tire pressures are too low, because apparently Americans are too busy firing machine guns and thus haven't the time to master the use of a tire pressure gauge.

I carry a cheap pressure gauge in my glovebox with which to manually check my tire pressures, but I keep forgetting that in the USA glovebox space is sacred as it is reserved exclusively for the purpose of storing handguns.

[Ferdinand]

I would just encourage all of you to refrain from using ad hominem attacks in your arguments. They might feel good, but they ultimately degrade the level of the discussion...

Careful now, all the homophobes on this forum will think you're talking about them.

[Schniddy]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9LwUbFy--A

[Schniddy]

really now? EVERY country. im sure the us has plan to invade all the superpowers and a majority of the other ones. but i wouldnt think that the us would have plans for EVERY country. and as far a being prepared, just having plans for countries isnt enough. with wars against groups of people that dont belong to a particular country. i mean come on our current war situation could never be mistaken for prepared.

Ya, probably every country or damn close to it. We have plans for most plausible situations.

Our current situation could never be mistaken for prepared? Don't get me wrong, maybe we should of waiting on going into Iraq as soon as we did, and possible concentrated on Iran more. But hey, there are mistakes in war.

Other than that, I'm not sure what ill preparedness you are talking about. There were more deaths in Obamas senate state than there was in Iraq during the past 6 months..

[mikegar]

Ya, probably every country or damn close to it. We have plans for most plausible situations.

Our current situation could never be mistaken for prepared? Don't get me wrong, maybe we should of waiting on going into Iraq as soon as we did, and possible concentrated on Iran more. But hey, there are mistakes in war.

Other than that, I'm not sure what ill preparedness you are talking about. There were more deaths in Obamas senate state than there was in Iraq during the past 6 months..

the ill prepardness i am talking about is the no clear objective of the war. and once we did get ahold of things the president elect wants to go and shake shit up again. since there were more deaths in obamas senate state than in iraq shouldnt we be focusing on that instead of freeing other people? id rather see the us get its shit together before it helps to get other countries shit together.

[Schniddy]

the ill prepardness i am talking about is the no clear objective of the war. and once we did get ahold of things the president elect wants to go and shake shit up again. since there were more deaths in obamas senate state than in iraq shouldnt we be focusing on that instead of freeing other people? id rather see the us get its shit together before it helps to get other countries shit together.

No clear Objective?

http://www.whitehouse.gov/infocus/iraq/iraq_strategy_nov2005.html

Obama wants to shake shit up again?

He was telling voters he would get out of Iraq ASAP. People with some intelligents, I think, knocked some sense into him. The date is now set for 2012, or something like that. Maybe you were talking about afganistane (sp)? I'm no expert on world history, but I'm pretty sure most historians would agree that blowing that damn country off the face of the planet would be one of the biggest achievements of mankind. There has been nothing but trouble from those groups of people residing there throughout history.

focus more on idiots killing other people in the US rather than policing what is right in the world?

Ya, your right. Lets create a militia more funded than our military and give Obama the authority over it. :up:

[mikegar]

im talking about how president elect wants to reduce troops in iraq and focus on pakistan. what i have seen of this war on terror it has been all over the place, first we were looking for osama bin laden, then there were the weapons of mass distruction, which werent there. i mean its been pretty fuct from the begining. as far as policing the world,, how are we going to police the world if we cant even police our own country?

[mikegar]

and it doesnt matter if they are idiots killing other idiots, they are still americans.