I got banned from veggie forums.

[tofubento]

To make the argument that "something goes against God and therefore must be wrong" is a fallacy.

HA! I reject your reality and substitute my own!

[tofubento]

What are you doing at a vegan site if you eat meat? Are you really surprised you were banned? You really are as stupid as you seemed in the other thread.

BTW, humans only eat meat because there was a massive drought that forced us too. I ate meat till I was 19, and loved almost every minute of it, till I realized it was selfish and really fucked up.

Vegetarians on average live 7 years longer than meat eaters and are far less susceptible to cancer.

Keep eating meat, the world will thank you.

Also remember, you can be considered a vegetarian if you dont eat red meat....most mass produced redmeat is full of nasty shit...so organic red meat is much better for you. Fish oil is great for your heart and helps with the good cholesterol.

Vegetarians are also patheticly weak from not eating enough protien to build up proper muscles. :drink:

[george graves]

Fish oil is great for your heart and helps with the good cholesterol.

Well, except for all the mercury we dug up and used in mining in the early 1900's. It all ended up in the ocean.

Mercury is called a "heavy metal" for many reasons - it's much like lead. Unlike copper or zink, it doesn't leave your body. Instead, it likes to deposit itself in your soft tissue - like your brain.

On the plus side, all the hormones we've pumped into cows are making the adverage woman's breasts grow bigger. I'm all for that!

Don't you love science?

[Money$hit]

For every animal you dont eat, im going to eat three.

[Jordan325iC]

I could never, ever be a vegan, but I fail to see the point in going over there and purposely stirring up shit. They're not hurting you at all by abstaining from meat, so why should you care?

[george graves]

^+1. But if I'm going to eat meat, all I want is my cow not to suffer any pain.

The whole gigantic electrode dildo up a cows ass to kill them is not cool. We treat death row inmates better...

[jflip2002]

Eating meat is an environmentally bad choice. We'd be a lot more efficient if we just ate grains and veggies. Its a fact that 90% of energy is lost as it moves through trophic levels. So it takes 10 units of grain, to feed 1 unit of animal. Thats a fact.

As far as the canine teeth we have, that is probably more of an adaption than anything. Another anatomical feature we have to look at would be our long intestinal tract. It is similar to those of other herbivores. Notices how MOST of our teeth are flat, unlike most carnivores?

With that said.... People need to get the fuck off their vegan/veggie high horse. There are medians in both directions. If you look at someone who doesnt eat ANY meat is probably unhealthy, for the most part. Someone who eats an excess of meat is probably unhealthy, high cholesterol, etc etc. Theres a median to find here. You dont have to eat meat in every meal. But you also dont have to live off of Tofu and that other fucked up alternative shit those fruit cakes eat.

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As far as whale wars, that shits fucked up. There is an international law prohibiting these pieces of shit from whaling. They dont listen to these laws, and claim to be doing it for "scientific research". Conveniently enough, you have to kill these whales to study them. And since theyre killed, they dont want to waste the meat, so they happen to eat it. Its something crazy like 50,000 whales a year they poach. I dont know about the fruits on the boat being vegans, thats a little irrelevant to the real importance of them fighting the poachers. I think their measures are a little drastic, and they are taking the law into their own hands... But shit, if no one else does anything about it, why not let them? As long as they dont come asking for our help when theyre in over their heads.

[CorvallisBMW]

Vegetarians are also patheticly weak from not eating enough protien to build up proper muscles. :drink:

I've actually switched from whey protein powder to soy protein powder because it has far, far more protein and much less cholesterol. I don't have the boxes in front of me to compare, but if memory serves me right the soy stuff has about 20% more protein per serving (of equal size) but with less than half of the cholesterol.

[jflip2002]

and is believed to increase estrogen levels, though that may be a wise tale.... or not ;) My nitrotech has an alarming 45mg of cholesterol (15% of your daily value). I think Casein protein is a little lower also, though not vegan. The only bad thing about Soy is its breakdown rates. Whey is the fastest processed protein there is, which is why its so popular.

[george graves]

^have you even read the studies about what SOY does to male infants? Not to mention it lowers your sperm count - in lab rats it's been shown to shrink their nuts to almost nothing.

No soy milk for me.

[CorvallisBMW]

^have you even read the studies about what SOY does to male infants? Not to mention it lowers your sperm count - in lab rats it's been shown to shrink their nuts to almost nothing.

No soy milk for me.

No, I was not aware of such things. Any links? I guess i'd better stop drinking protein shakes till I do some more research :crazy:

[jflip2002]

Ive never heard anything of that George. Any links by any chance? All I was aware of was the fact that it was rumored to raise estrogen levels... But I thought that has been dispelled. Or you could use one of the other many proteins Corvallis. Theres Whey, casein, egg, some people use goat also.

[tofubento]

Well, except for all the mercury we dug up and used in mining in the early 1900's. It all ended up in the ocean.

Mercury is called a "heavy metal" for many reasons - it's much like lead. Unlike copper or zink, it doesn't leave your body. Instead, it likes to deposit itself in your soft tissue - like your brain.

On the plus side, all the hormones we've pumped into cows are making the adverage woman's breasts grow bigger. I'm all for that!

Don't you love science?

To counter alot of the mercury, just eat seaweed...its worked for thousands of years. You can also get organic, tank grown fish that doesnt suffer from all the mercury and other toxins...but honestly...seaweed works great...specially with some good octowaffleswaffleswaffleswaffleswaffles!!! :D

[tofubento]

If you look at someone who doesnt eat ANY meat is probably unhealthy, for the most part. Someone who eats an excess of meat is probably unhealthy, high cholesterol, etc etc. Theres a median to find here. You dont have to eat meat in every meal. But you also dont have to live off of Tofu and that other fucked up alternative shit those fruit cakes eat.

OMG commons sense...its is so rare...it IS A FUCKING SUPER POWER!!

Well said m8!

[tofubento]

No, I was not aware of such things. Any links? I guess i'd better stop drinking protein shakes till I do some more research :crazy:

What kind of protien shakes are you taking?

If your taking the soy based ones, those are okay, but they will not work as well as whey protien. Though I friggin love muscle milk!!! That shit works wonders and actually tastes good!!!