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Vanilla Sky and Magnolia were awesome. Born on the Fourth of July is pretty badass too.
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Vanilla Sky? Magnolia? Ive never even heard of Born on Fourth of July. Come on fruit cake scientologist. Top Gun and Jerry McGuire were good, but thats it. Besides that, hes a tool. Id like to punch him in his face.... but I plan on seeing Valkyrie, it looks solid. Maybe it'll be one of three not gay movies hes in.
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Originally posted by CleanAzzE30z View PostI never considered him a good actor by any means. I did like minority report, though. Sorry to say, that if I consider an actor a douchebag in real life, I usually am not interested in seeing their movies. Goes for many actors. I usually dont give a fuck about an actors personal beliefs, but Tom has some beliefs that hit close to my heart so it makes a difference. Im not saying Im boycotting their movies, Im just saying I make no effort to see them. But then again, it takes a lot for me to want to see a movie. And you have a point about the garbage being put out.
Mariano
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masterpiece in comparison? holy shit. what blows my mind is what people consider good movies now a days. MAN what crap thats on the big screen.
i'm not saying everything is bad - Minority Report and Vanilla Sky were pretty good, but probably more so because i'm a guy and dig the action flicks... but seriously speaking of Tom's "character" as an actor. He stinks! His character is bland, it doesnt appear that he tries to be a character, he's just himself and his personal self shows into each role he plays and taints the film. He doesnt become that character, its just Tom in another movie.
You want an example of a true character? how about Heath Ledger in Dark Knight? Now that movie was pretty good, i'm enjoying the BM reboot but this movie became more of the same of Hollywood but still has potential to have an even better third movie. More on point, damn that was some acting! So much so it killed him and i know anything about him is beating a dead horse but i'm just making the point that THATS acting!
I dont think i have to say anything more about Tom to deliver that his acting is just bad. I REALLY do think that Valkyrie could have been a little better with a different lead character.
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I never considered him a good actor by any means. I did like minority report, though. Sorry to say, that if I consider an actor a douchebag in real life, I usually am not interested in seeing their movies. Goes for many actors. I usually dont give a fuck about an actors personal beliefs, but Tom has some beliefs that hit close to my heart so it makes a difference. Im not saying Im boycotting their movies, Im just saying I make no effort to see them. But then again, it takes a lot for me to want to see a movie. And you have a point about the garbage being put out.
Mariano
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Guest repliedWhy the fuck is everybody so concerned with Tom Cruise's private life? Were people calling him a shitty actor before his religion became widely known? No, he was and still is considered a great actor regardless of his personal beliefs. Minority Report, The Last Samurai, A Few Good Men, Jerry Maguire, Magnolia, Vanilla Sky, Born on the Fourth of July, etc. were all great performances. If you think Valkyrie was awful then you must not have seen a movie in the past 10 years because Valkyrie is a masterpiece compared to some of the garbage that comes out of Hollywood these days.
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saw it last week, the movie is awful!
here is my new take on it. you know how, in the movie, Tom is constantly trying to convince everyone that the bomb killed hitler? well this is the mental image i now get of Tom and Scientology.
What a disgrace of an actor and a pathetic existence that encroaches in my life.
I had an idea to do a fun web site but because his last name is so close to the automotive factor i was looking to center attention on, I'd be distraught if people got the shit confused with Tom.... uhg
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the whole movie was disappointing. Tom Cruise did terribly (no attempt at German accent?!) and the directing could have and should have been much, much better.
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Originally posted by CleanAzzE30z View PostI just cant stand Tom. It sucks, I know. Usually Im all over a WWII movie but I cant picture Tom being a nazi, and I cant stand him as a person so Im not even thinking of seeing this when it comes out on cable.
Mariano
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Originally posted by Alkasquawlik View PostDefiance is out already? I've been waiting to see it, bu it only comes out in select theaters in 2 weeks.
id definatly reccomend seeing defiance, it has like a perfect balance between gun fights and just drama. its not to shoot em up. great story though!
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i was in germany at the time they were shooting the film and they tried to kick tom out of germany along with the whole crew. im not sure why but i remember seeing it in the news while i was there.
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just came back from seeing it despite the so-so reviews here.. overall i'd give it a 6/10. I too knew the historical version having been a WWII buff but was interesting to see it nonetheless. cruise was not terrible but not great either, i think his acting days are over. i think the plot (like the coup) lost steam in the last 10mins.. they could have made it more dramatic.
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Originally posted by WhatWentWong View PostThe movie's article in Wikipedia says a lot about the trouble and redtape that the producers had to go through to get filming priviledges in Germany, and especially permission to display the swaztika for filming. A lot of locals whose front porches and balconies were summon to be used by the film were reported to the authorities for displaying the swastika...so it shows that the germans themselves are still really sensitive about this portion of their past.
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