No White Guys allowed...

[BlueJ85]

Who's in high school? I won't come down to your level, though it's tempting because it's so simple.

You don't know how much credibility I have.

Thank you for proving yourself wrong.

[speedhop]

Ok, let's take all things out of context.

So you're saying Obama is a Communist? EEEERRRRT. Try again.

I'm sorry, how was that out of context? It is what you so aptly called a MATEPHOOOOOOR.

YOU ARE DENSE.

[Money$hit]

Those videos scare the shit out of me.

[speedhop]

Who's in high school? I won't come down to your level, though it's tempting because it's so simple.

You don't know how much credibility I have.

Thank you for proving yourself wrong.

I know how much credibility you have. You're a dumbass college kid who works at Sears. Realllll credible

[BlueJ85]

Last time I checked redistrubution of wealth is a pretty socialist view...?

There is a difference between socialism and communism dude.

Communism is what you described.

If you're right and I'm a socialist, I would not want Obama to be president.

[atomic]

Mainly our economic state, and more quickly than with Bushy Bush in office.

Economics is a complicated thing. Government spending will not necessarily make us tax-payers pay more taxes. The government basically makes money whenever it wants it. Plus with the US being the most powerful nation in the world, it doesn't matter that much what kind of debt we have.

I'm done with this argument. Read a few books, take a few classes, then get back to me.

By the way, I'm not from Chippewa Falls. So glad you could resort to insults.

Specify. Otherwise that post was the most ignorant one on this thread.

Is that the best you can do with your logic on how things work? Please stay in school and finish the 6 grade first before moving on to more remedial classes that you need to take to get you through HS first. I can not help the fact that you are 20y/o either...

Please for the love of GOD someone get their Senator to pass a bill changing the voting age to 40!


oh and...

About BlueJ85
Biography About to graditate from college, lookin for a "real" job...
Location Chippewa Falls, WI
Interests Cars and music mainly.
Occupation Currently sell appliances at Sears...yes, I'm part of the "Blue Crew."

Sears might want to demote you to janitor, until you get the proper education in the mean time...


:mrgreen:

[atomic]

i thought you were done dumbass. the national debt hasnt had any effect on me. because we can just print more money. we are the most powerful nation in the world after all. hahahaha
you have zero credibility fuckhead. ill bet 100 atrt dollars you are in high school
youre correct. dictators arent successful. only because i have not taken charge yet. eat a socialist dick. i think i hear the lunch buzzer, run along now BJ hahahaa do they call you BJ??

I will raise you 300 atrt dollars...

[BlueJ85]

I'm sorry, how was that out of context? It is what you so aptly called a MATEPHOOOOOOR.

YOU ARE DENSE.

Ok, so in my passion I misspoke. Ya got me. Bam. Dead. Not.

It was EXAGGERATION.

I know how much credibility you have. You're a dumbass college kid who works at Sears. Realllll credible

And who are you? Albert Einstein?

By the way, I no longer work at Sears, thank you. And I am no longer a "college kid." Been awhile since I was last on the forum.

[metalix1021]

There is a difference between socialism and communism dude.

Communism is what you described.

If you're right and I'm a socialist, I would not want Obama to be president.

Yes, there is a difference

You are a socialist. Obama had socialist ideas. Sure, he might not be your ideal candidate, but close enough.

He is FOR resdistribution of wealth. I didn't even bring up Obama initially, just your misguided thoughts/opinions.

[BlueJ85]

Is that the best you can do with your logic on how things work? Please stay in school and finish the 6 grade first before moving on to more remedial classes that you need to take to get you through HS first. I can not help the fact that you are 20y/o either...

Please for the love of GOD someone get their Senator to pass a bill changing the voting age to 40!


oh and...

Sears might want to demote you to janitor, until you get the proper education in the mean time...


:mrgreen:

Thanks for the insults. I lol'd.

[BlueJ85]

Yes, there is a difference

You are a socialist. Obama had socialist ideas. Sure, he might not be your ideal candidate, but close enough.

He is FOR resdistribution of wealth. I didn't even bring up Obama initially, just your misguided thoughts/opinions.

This is getting a little off topic.

Who are you to call me a socialist? Did I say I wanted a centrally planned economy? Please quote me on that.

[Farbin Kaiber]

By the way, I no longer work at Sears, thank you. And I am no longer a "college kid." Been awhile since I was last on the forum.

But you were a college kid two months ago when you signed up for r3v. Only half a semester?

[metalix1021]

This is getting a little off topic.

Who are you to call me a socialist? Did I say I wanted a centrally planned economy? Please quote me on that.

"So you think giving money to those deemed more in need first is wrong? You're just jealous that you aren't so in need. And you think that is communism? WRONG. It's fairness, justness. "

If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck.

[metalix1021]

Yup....

Socialists mainly share the belief that capitalism unfairly concentrates power and wealth among a small segment of society that controls capital, creates an unequal society and does not provide equal opportunities for everyone in society to attain such status. Therefore socialists advocate the creation of an egalitarian society, in which wealth and power are distributed more evenly,

[E30 Cabrio]

[http://www.congress.org/congressorg/...z?c111:H.R.40]

Commission to Study Reparation Proposals for African-Americans Act (Introduced in House)
HR 40 IH
111th CONGRESS 1st Session H. R. 40
To acknowledge the fundamental injustice, cruelty, brutality, and inhumanity of slavery in the United States and the 13 American colonies between 1619 and 1865 and to establish a commission to examine the institution of slavery, subsequently de jure and de facto racial and economic discrimination against African-Americans, and the impact of these forces on living African-Americans, to make recommendations to the Congress on appropriate remedies, and for other purposes.
IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
January 6, 2009

Mr. CONYERS (for himself and Mr. SCOTT of Virginia) introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on the Judiciary
A BILL
To acknowledge the fundamental injustice, cruelty, brutality, and inhumanity of slavery in the United States and the 13 American colonies between 1619 and 1865 and to establish a commission to examine the institution of slavery, subsequently de jure and de facto racial and economic discrimination against African-Americans, and the impact of these forces on living African-Americans, to make recommendations to the Congress on appropriate remedies, and for other purposes.
•Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,
SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.
•This Act may be cited as the `Commission to Study Reparation Proposals for African-Americans Act'.
SEC. 2. FINDINGS AND PURPOSE.
•(a) Findings- The Congress finds that––
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o(1) approximately 4,000,000 Africans and their descendants were enslaved in the United States and colonies that became the United States from 1619 to 1865;
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o(2) the institution of slavery was constitutionally and statutorily sanctioned by the Government of the United States from 1789 through 1865;
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o(3) the slavery that flourished in the United States constituted an immoral and inhumane deprivation of Africans' life, liberty, African citizenship rights, and cultural heritage, and denied them the fruits of their own labor; and
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o(4) sufficient inquiry has not been made into the effects of the institution of slavery on living African-Americans and society in the United States.
•(b) Purpose- The purpose of this Act is to establish a commission to––
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o(1) examine the institution of slavery which existed from 1619 through 1865 within the United States and the colonies that became the United States, including the extent to which the Federal and State Governments constitutionally and statutorily supported the institution of slavery;
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o(2) examine de jure and de facto discrimination against freed slaves and their descendants from the end of the Civil War to the present, including economic, political, and social discrimination;
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o(3) examine the lingering negative effects of the institution of slavery and the discrimination described in paragraph (2) on living African-Americans and on society in the United States;
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o(4) recommend appropriate ways to educate the American public of the Commission's findings;
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o(5) recommend appropriate remedies in consideration of the Commission's findings on the matters described in paragraphs (1) and (2); and
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o(6) submit to the Congress the results of such examination, together with such recommendations.
SEC. 3. ESTABLISHMENT AND DUTIES.
•(a) Establishment- There is established the Commission to Study Reparation Proposals for African-Americans (hereinafter in this Act referred to as the `Commission').
•(b) Duties- The Commission shall perform the following duties:
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o(1) Examine the institution of slavery which existed within the United States and the colonies that became the United States from 1619 through 1865. The Commission's examination shall include an examination of––
•
o
(A) the capture and procurement of Africans;
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(B) the transport of Africans to the United States and the colonies that became the United States for the purpose of enslavement, including their treatment during transport;
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(C) the sale and acquisition of Africans as chattel property in interstate and instrastate commerce; and
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(D) the treatment of African slaves in the colonies and the United States, including the deprivation of their freedom, exploitation of their labor, and destruction of their culture, language, religion, and families.
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o(2) Examine the extent to which the Federal and State governments of the United States supported the institution of slavery in constitutional and statutory provisions, including the extent to which such governments prevented, opposed, or restricted efforts of freed African slaves to repatriate to their homeland.
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o(3) Examine Federal and State laws that discriminated against freed African slaves and their descendants during the period between the end of the Civil War and the present.
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o(4) Examine other forms of discrimination in the public and private sectors against freed African slaves and their descendants during the period between the end of the Civil War and the present.
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o(5) Examine the lingering negative effects of the institution of slavery and the matters described in paragraphs (1), (2), (3), and (4) on living African-Americans and on society in the United States.
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•(6) Recommend appropriate ways to educate the American public of the Commission's findings.
o(7) Recommend appropriate remedies in consideration of the Commission's findings on the matters described in paragraphs (1), (2), (3), and (4). In making such recommendations, the Commission shall address among other issues, the following questions:
•
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(A) Whether the Government of the United States should offer a formal apology on behalf of the people of the United States for the perpetration of gross human rights violations on African slaves and their descendants.
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(B) Whether African-Americans still suffer from the lingering effects of the matters described in paragraphs (1), (2), (3), and (4).
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(C) Whether, in consideration of the Commission's findings, any form of compensation to the descendants of African slaves is warranted.
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(D) If the Commission finds that such compensation is warranted, what should be the amount of compensation, what form of compensation should be awarded, and who should be eligible for such compensation.
(c) Report to Congress- The Commission shall submit a written report of its findings and recommendations to the Congress not later than the date which is one year after the date of the first meeting of the Commission held pursuant to section 4(c).

I'm all in favor of giving reparations to former slaves.

Any former living slave should be entitled to compensation.

For the rest of us, bend over - here it comes and this is just the beginning.

And to all you Obama voters who bought into this BS and his vague talk of "Hope" and even more vague promises of "Change" - thanks for putting this idiot into the WH

He can't even recite an oath of office without a teleprompter.