Any questions about Scientology??

[z31maniac]

Its not... The science fiction writers who wrote the bible just lived too long ago to be remembered.

It was a rhetorical question used to make a point.

[Farbin Kaiber]

This looks like an illegal takeover of some sort to me. (This is the leadership change I spoke of earlier)

"Miscavige made the first announcement of L. Ron Hubbard's death in 1986, speaking to Sea Org members assembled in the Hollywood Palladium. Shortly before Hubbard's death, an apparent order from him circulated in the Sea Org that promoted Scientologist Pat Broeker and his wife to the new rank of Loyal Officer, making them the highest-ranking members. Miscavige became the Chairman of the Board of Religious Technology Center the following year. One of his acts as chairman was to cancel the promotion order, establishing himself as the ecclesiastical leader of the religion."

[Farbin Kaiber]

What about Criminon, Narconon and Applied Scholastics. Any feelings, opinions?

[devonjordan]

Why is it anymore strange than believing in virgin birth, rising from the dead and an invisible spaghetti monster determining where your soul spends eternity?

Its not... The science fiction writers who wrote the bible just lived too long ago to be remembered.

[z31maniac]

B. Why did you, and why do people continue to, join a religion based on the writings of a science-fiction novelist?

Why is it anymore strange than believing in virgin birth, rising from the dead and an invisible spaghetti monster determining where your soul spends eternity?

[Farbin Kaiber]

Says the guy with a brainiac in his avatar...oh wait...

mad freakin' lulz. I fell off the chair.

[joshh]

I should use that in my sig, maybe people will belive me when I say things.

Says the guy with a brainiac in his avatar...oh wait...

[joshh]

Most religions take the poor, tired, weak, and downtrodden, the worst of the worst, to assist in their salvation.... On the other hand, Scientology Questionare highpoints...

Have you ever embezzled money?
Have you ever been a drug addict?
Have you ever bombed anything?
Have you ever murdered anyone?
Have you ever raped anyone?
Have you ever had anything to do with a baby farm?[5][6]
Have you ever practiced cannibalism?
Have you ever practiced sex with children?
Have you ever practiced masturbation?
Have you ever killed or crippled animals for pleasure?
Have you ever had unkind thoughts about L. Ron Hubbard?[6]

Security Check Children

What has somebody told you not to tell?
Have you ever decided you didn't like some member of your family?
Have you ever taken something belonging to somebody else and never given it back?
Have you ever pretended to be sick (ill)?
Have you ever made yourself sick (ill) or hurt yourself to make somebody sorry?

Whole Track Security Check (All your past "lives")

Did you come to Earth for evil purposes?
Have you ever smothered a baby?
Have you ever enslaved a population?
Have you ever destroyed a culture?
Have you ever torn out someone's tongue?
Have you ever zapped anyone?
Have you ever eaten a human body?
Have you ever made a planet, or nation, radioactive?

Yep, that would be done with the e-meter. Security check. Many people that join the Sea org are exactly that way. They can't afford to pay for Scientology so they join the Sea org.

[Farbin Kaiber]

You know much!!! Wow, you are very well informed.

I should use that in my sig, maybe people will belive me when I say things.

[joshh]

Well. On one side an auto journalist, and on the other, a sci-fi author. That's about just the same. Two scams.

Is that supposed to be a serious topic? I hope you guys don't take that too seriously. Especially when one dude starts by "I did this over at Bimmer Forums as well, I figured I'd give you guys a chance to ask any questions you want."

Come on.

Come on what.
Is there some reason Ican't answer questions about Scientology here?
Why isn't it a serious topic?

[Farbin Kaiber]

Most religions take the poor, tired, weak, and downtrodden, the worst of the worst, to assist in their salvation.... On the other hand, Scientology Questionare highpoints...

Have you ever embezzled money?
Have you ever been a drug addict?
Have you ever bombed anything?
Have you ever murdered anyone?
Have you ever raped anyone?
Have you ever had anything to do with a baby farm?[5][6]
Have you ever practiced cannibalism?
Have you ever practiced sex with children?
Have you ever practiced masturbation?
Have you ever killed or crippled animals for pleasure?
Have you ever had unkind thoughts about L. Ron Hubbard?[6]

Security Check Children

What has somebody told you not to tell?
Have you ever decided you didn't like some member of your family?
Have you ever taken something belonging to somebody else and never given it back?
Have you ever pretended to be sick (ill)?
Have you ever made yourself sick (ill) or hurt yourself to make somebody sorry?

Whole Track Security Check (All your past "lives")

Did you come to Earth for evil purposes?
Have you ever smothered a baby?
Have you ever enslaved a population?
Have you ever destroyed a culture?
Have you ever torn out someone's tongue?
Have you ever zapped anyone?
Have you ever eaten a human body?
Have you ever made a planet, or nation, radioactive?

[joshh]

Come on Lee, a religion created by an auto magazine writer? Save that for another thread, let's not get off topic.

That's almost "more" credible.

Hmmm... How credible is a cult that requires mucho money to be "in"? I much prefer the Raelian cult. At least they get to gangbang all 16 year old newcomers and fly to the moon in the leader's personal flying saucer.

Exactly. Accepting donations is one thing, charging for services is a business.

On a side note, Gold Base is quite breathtaking from the street view.




Tell him to make a Raelian thread. And then we can talk about their use of the swastika.

It's alright. Weird is weird. But thanks.

Yes Scientology puts millions into their building to try to attract new victims...er..members.

"You don't get rich writing science fiction. If you want to get rich, you start a religion."

-L. Ron Hubbard ( November 11, 1948 )



And,




DEAR HELEN

10 APRIL 53

RE CLINIC, HAS


The arrangements that have been made seem a good temporary measure. On a longer look, however, something more equitable will have to be organized. I am not quite sure what we would call the place - probably not a clinic - but I am sure that it ought to be a company, independent of the HAS [the Hubbard Association of Scientologists] but fed by the HAS. We don't want a clinic. We want one in operation but not in name. Perhaps we could call it a Spiritual Guidance Center. Think up its name, will you. And we could put in nice desks and our boys in neat blue with diplomas on the walls and 1. knock psychotherapy into history and 2. make enough money to shine up my operating scope and 3. keep the HAS solvent. It is a problem of practical business. I await your reaction on the religion angle. In my opinion, we couldn't get worse public opinion than we have had or have less customers with what we've got to sell. A religious charter would be necessary in Pennsylvania or NJ to make it stick. But I sure could make it stick. We're treating the present time beingness, psychotherapy treats the past and the brain. And brother, that's religion, not mental science.

Best Regards,

Ron

Did you, or, anyone you know get RPF'ed?

You know much!!!
Wow, you are very well informed.
The church has their own propaganda about Hubbard. he's perfect in their eyes. But don't show them his military medical records...(plugs ears0 LALALALALALALALALALA
No wonder the church hates the net, that's where a lot of truth is about Scientology and Hubbard.
The Larry Brennan affidavit is a sweet read as well.

.http://evil.scientology.googlepages.com/


Yeah, I was on the RPF....

[Farbin Kaiber]

"The RPF is what you make it.
The RPF is where you make it."

Sounds like a work camp if I've ever.

[Farbin Kaiber]

Well. On one side an auto journalist, and on the other, a sci-fi author. That's about just the same. Two scams.

Is that supposed to be a serious topic? I hope you guys don't take that too seriously. Especially when one dude starts by "I did this over at Bimmer Forums as well, I figured I'd give you guys a chance to ask any questions you want."

Come on.

Yes, it was serious. In Canada, religious freedom may work a bit different. Yes, they are a "Cult" in your neck of the woods, but here in the US of A it is a full fledged "Religious Group". Go start your auto-journalist thread elsewhere.

[Massive Lee]

Well. On one side an auto journalist, and on the other, a sci-fi author. That's about just the same. Two scams.

Is that supposed to be a serious topic? I hope you guys don't take that too seriously. Especially when one dude starts by "I did this over at Bimmer Forums as well, I figured I'd give you guys a chance to ask any questions you want."

Come on.