Any questions about Scientology??

[devonjordan]

Lee's sounds like more fun...

[Farbin Kaiber]

On a side note, Gold Base is quite breathtaking from the street view.

Lee's sounds like more fun...

Tell him to make a Raelian thread. And then we can talk about their use of the swastika.

[joshh]

The claim that a fully cleared theta clear can create their own MEST universe. Yep, same line.

It's not that way. It may be a twisted idea of what Hubbard says. There's no mest on that quote. Looks like it's from Dianetics.
He does make more extreme claims about clear that's for sure.

Man Scientology is crazy. Their own cruise ship they do god knows what on?

They deliver the top of the "bridge" there.

Do they have a God to know who does what on the ship?

Oh yeah. I forgot about that. lol

Exactly, no god and no worship at all.

Did you ever hear about the Fishman incident regarding OT VIII?

Yep, Jesus was a pediphile...Hubbard fucked that up bad...lol.
That's why they're called foot bullets.

Or, Snow White?

Oh yeah. Scientologists don't even know about this shit. And the ones that do justify it by saying MSH did it on her own volition. Denial once again!

What exactly does the church use with all this freaking money?

Much of it goes to litigation. Much of it goes to new buildings. Much of it goes to reserves. And what isn't used on bills goes to staff....LOL. $50.00 a week if you're Sea org.

L Ron Hubbard's wife, and close associates, in the 70's, convicted of perpetrating the largest incident of domestic espionage in the history of the United States. They went out to reclaim any negative information on them or the "Church".

Yep some serious shit. She was jailed for years and finally released. The church kept her away from Scientology and kept an eye on her.

Do you know how to work this? Could you give an explaination of the controls?

Absolutely. Yes I was.

The big arm to the left is "Tone Arm. You move it to keep the needle in a range where you can see the needle sweep.

The next arm (the small one) is sensitivity. Makes the needle more or less sensitive.

I forget what "trim" is for but it was barely ever used.

[Farbin Kaiber]

"You don't get rich writing science fiction. If you want to get rich, you start a religion."

-L. Ron Hubbard ( November 11, 1948 )



And,




DEAR HELEN

10 APRIL 53

RE CLINIC, HAS


The arrangements that have been made seem a good temporary measure. On a longer look, however, something more equitable will have to be organized. I am not quite sure what we would call the place - probably not a clinic - but I am sure that it ought to be a company, independent of the HAS [the Hubbard Association of Scientologists] but fed by the HAS. We don't want a clinic. We want one in operation but not in name. Perhaps we could call it a Spiritual Guidance Center. Think up its name, will you. And we could put in nice desks and our boys in neat blue with diplomas on the walls and 1. knock psychotherapy into history and 2. make enough money to shine up my operating scope and 3. keep the HAS solvent. It is a problem of practical business. I await your reaction on the religion angle. In my opinion, we couldn't get worse public opinion than we have had or have less customers with what we've got to sell. A religious charter would be necessary in Pennsylvania or NJ to make it stick. But I sure could make it stick. We're treating the present time beingness, psychotherapy treats the past and the brain. And brother, that's religion, not mental science.

Best Regards,

Ron

[Farbin Kaiber]

Did you, or, anyone you know get RPF'ed?

[Massive Lee]

Well. On one side an auto journalist, and on the other, a sci-fi author. That's about just the same. Two scams.

Is that supposed to be a serious topic? I hope you guys don't take that too seriously. Especially when one dude starts by "I did this over at Bimmer Forums as well, I figured I'd give you guys a chance to ask any questions you want."

Come on.

[Farbin Kaiber]

Well. On one side an auto journalist, and on the other, a sci-fi author. That's about just the same. Two scams.

Is that supposed to be a serious topic? I hope you guys don't take that too seriously. Especially when one dude starts by "I did this over at Bimmer Forums as well, I figured I'd give you guys a chance to ask any questions you want."

Come on.

Yes, it was serious. In Canada, religious freedom may work a bit different. Yes, they are a "Cult" in your neck of the woods, but here in the US of A it is a full fledged "Religious Group". Go start your auto-journalist thread elsewhere.

[Farbin Kaiber]

"The RPF is what you make it.
The RPF is where you make it."

Sounds like a work camp if I've ever.

[joshh]

Come on Lee, a religion created by an auto magazine writer? Save that for another thread, let's not get off topic.

That's almost "more" credible.

Hmmm... How credible is a cult that requires mucho money to be "in"? I much prefer the Raelian cult. At least they get to gangbang all 16 year old newcomers and fly to the moon in the leader's personal flying saucer.

Exactly. Accepting donations is one thing, charging for services is a business.

On a side note, Gold Base is quite breathtaking from the street view.




Tell him to make a Raelian thread. And then we can talk about their use of the swastika.

It's alright. Weird is weird. But thanks.

Yes Scientology puts millions into their building to try to attract new victims...er..members.

"You don't get rich writing science fiction. If you want to get rich, you start a religion."

-L. Ron Hubbard ( November 11, 1948 )



And,




DEAR HELEN

10 APRIL 53

RE CLINIC, HAS


The arrangements that have been made seem a good temporary measure. On a longer look, however, something more equitable will have to be organized. I am not quite sure what we would call the place - probably not a clinic - but I am sure that it ought to be a company, independent of the HAS [the Hubbard Association of Scientologists] but fed by the HAS. We don't want a clinic. We want one in operation but not in name. Perhaps we could call it a Spiritual Guidance Center. Think up its name, will you. And we could put in nice desks and our boys in neat blue with diplomas on the walls and 1. knock psychotherapy into history and 2. make enough money to shine up my operating scope and 3. keep the HAS solvent. It is a problem of practical business. I await your reaction on the religion angle. In my opinion, we couldn't get worse public opinion than we have had or have less customers with what we've got to sell. A religious charter would be necessary in Pennsylvania or NJ to make it stick. But I sure could make it stick. We're treating the present time beingness, psychotherapy treats the past and the brain. And brother, that's religion, not mental science.

Best Regards,

Ron

Did you, or, anyone you know get RPF'ed?

You know much!!!
Wow, you are very well informed.
The church has their own propaganda about Hubbard. he's perfect in their eyes. But don't show them his military medical records...(plugs ears0 LALALALALALALALALALA
No wonder the church hates the net, that's where a lot of truth is about Scientology and Hubbard.
The Larry Brennan affidavit is a sweet read as well.

.http://evil.scientology.googlepages.com/


Yeah, I was on the RPF....

[Farbin Kaiber]

Most religions take the poor, tired, weak, and downtrodden, the worst of the worst, to assist in their salvation.... On the other hand, Scientology Questionare highpoints...

Have you ever embezzled money?
Have you ever been a drug addict?
Have you ever bombed anything?
Have you ever murdered anyone?
Have you ever raped anyone?
Have you ever had anything to do with a baby farm?[5][6]
Have you ever practiced cannibalism?
Have you ever practiced sex with children?
Have you ever practiced masturbation?
Have you ever killed or crippled animals for pleasure?
Have you ever had unkind thoughts about L. Ron Hubbard?[6]

Security Check Children

What has somebody told you not to tell?
Have you ever decided you didn't like some member of your family?
Have you ever taken something belonging to somebody else and never given it back?
Have you ever pretended to be sick (ill)?
Have you ever made yourself sick (ill) or hurt yourself to make somebody sorry?

Whole Track Security Check (All your past "lives")

Did you come to Earth for evil purposes?
Have you ever smothered a baby?
Have you ever enslaved a population?
Have you ever destroyed a culture?
Have you ever torn out someone's tongue?
Have you ever zapped anyone?
Have you ever eaten a human body?
Have you ever made a planet, or nation, radioactive?

[joshh]

Well. On one side an auto journalist, and on the other, a sci-fi author. That's about just the same. Two scams.

Is that supposed to be a serious topic? I hope you guys don't take that too seriously. Especially when one dude starts by "I did this over at Bimmer Forums as well, I figured I'd give you guys a chance to ask any questions you want."

Come on.

Come on what.
Is there some reason Ican't answer questions about Scientology here?
Why isn't it a serious topic?

[Farbin Kaiber]

You know much!!! Wow, you are very well informed.

I should use that in my sig, maybe people will belive me when I say things.

[joshh]

Most religions take the poor, tired, weak, and downtrodden, the worst of the worst, to assist in their salvation.... On the other hand, Scientology Questionare highpoints...

Have you ever embezzled money?
Have you ever been a drug addict?
Have you ever bombed anything?
Have you ever murdered anyone?
Have you ever raped anyone?
Have you ever had anything to do with a baby farm?[5][6]
Have you ever practiced cannibalism?
Have you ever practiced sex with children?
Have you ever practiced masturbation?
Have you ever killed or crippled animals for pleasure?
Have you ever had unkind thoughts about L. Ron Hubbard?[6]

Security Check Children

What has somebody told you not to tell?
Have you ever decided you didn't like some member of your family?
Have you ever taken something belonging to somebody else and never given it back?
Have you ever pretended to be sick (ill)?
Have you ever made yourself sick (ill) or hurt yourself to make somebody sorry?

Whole Track Security Check (All your past "lives")

Did you come to Earth for evil purposes?
Have you ever smothered a baby?
Have you ever enslaved a population?
Have you ever destroyed a culture?
Have you ever torn out someone's tongue?
Have you ever zapped anyone?
Have you ever eaten a human body?
Have you ever made a planet, or nation, radioactive?

Yep, that would be done with the e-meter. Security check. Many people that join the Sea org are exactly that way. They can't afford to pay for Scientology so they join the Sea org.

[joshh]

I should use that in my sig, maybe people will belive me when I say things.

Says the guy with a brainiac in his avatar...oh wait...

[Farbin Kaiber]

Says the guy with a brainiac in his avatar...oh wait...

mad freakin' lulz. I fell off the chair.