wtf is this GIVE act thing

[SLUCK]

maybe if people would clean up after themselves and not take everything for granted then our government wouldn't have to impose these types of things. I mean fuck, is it to much to ask to put down the kingsize fries and help out a bit.

[delatlanta1281]

Wait... what's wrong with Americorps? A bunch of college kids helping clean up impoverished areas on a volenteer basis? Maybe if the new generation would give more of a shit about the towns and people around them, they wouldn't have to worry about this. Kind of like having to take a test in order to graduate high school, or tightening up on driving privelages for young drivers, or, clear book bags in schools.
When i was younger, none of these rules were implemented, and they didn't need to be. Suck it up and help your community. If you only care for yourself, maybe someone needs to help you care for others.

[blunttech]

It amazes me that this program was outlined clearly on Mr. O's website "Change.gov", but was overlooked by so many young people looking for "change".

hahaha so true. the educated voter. how you like him now?? fucking idiot liberals

[Farbin Kaiber]

I've decided I really like a shit-ton of Ronald Regan quotes.

[87e30]

I'm not sure what you mean by "we have charity", as far as I know charity is a global concept.

Well i meant that we rely on charity's to support our needy. For the most part. And the government shouldn't take over that role.

[87e30]

Uhh... You don't have freedom to NOT pay taxes (which go back to your community). You don't have freedom not to obey laws (again a communitary standard). You don't have the freedom to leave somebody in distress behind you. You have to help that person. So, that so-called freedom's a far fetched romantic notion...

Some things are necessary for a country to function.

Taking money from people that have it and giving it to people that don't is not one of those things.

[kronus]

It's more than this though... we have charity. And we have plenty of citizens that aren't lazy fucks, and do community service. For instance I did 100 hours in high school. At my high school that was EXTREMELY common.

The difference is we shouldn't be forced. WE have freedom here. I thought we had freedom to give or not give as well. Guess not.

Fair enough. I also volunteered throughout high school, and wasn't forced to. I tend to have an extremely negative reaction to lazy, self-centered fucks, and some of that rose up again while reading this thread. I don't see how making something like this mandatory makes it worth less, though. Rise up over caring how doing something makes you feel, and realize that it helps the community regardless of how it happens.

I'm not sure what you mean by "we have charity", as far as I know charity is a global concept.

[Farbin Kaiber]

You don't have the freedom to leave somebody in distress behind you. You have to help that person. So, that so-called freedom's a far fetched romantic notion...

Says who? As long as you are not a Dr., or a trained medical professional who is on scene and begins assistance, there is no law requiring you to do shit.

[Massive Lee]

The difference is we shouldn't be forced. WE have freedom here.

Uhh... You don't have freedom to NOT pay taxes (which go back to your community). You don't have freedom not to obey laws (again a communitary standard). You don't have the freedom to leave somebody in distress behind you. You have to help that person. So, that so-called freedom's a far fetched romantic notion...

[E30 Cabrio]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAlrSRVdKZY

[e30s52]

Some of the kool-aid sippers thought that his effects would not really start until two plus years into his expected first term, then on into his second. I don't think his support he gathered from being the first "Hollywood Prez" will continue much past this year, let alone by the time election year rolls around in 2011-12.

God we are turning into a socialist country now.

[Farbin Kaiber]

Not at all. More like Switzerland where every year, civilians have to spend a week or two doing some military service.

But maybe it's not a bad thing for many spoiled and lazy kids. That will teach them some good "manners".

Required service in any manner defeats the whole concept of "Freedom".

And, why is it the Govt's job to teach "manners"? The Gov't needs to GTFO of mine and every other citizens life. We need less of this stuff, not more. There is no reason for all this "New Deal 2.0" BS starting up here.

[87e30]

+1

I see no problem with the U.S. becoming more like Europe. Probably because I'm not from here...

It's more than this though... we have charity. And we have plenty of citizens that aren't lazy fucks, and do community service. For instance I did 100 hours in high school. At my high school that was EXTREMELY common.

The difference is we shouldn't be forced. WE have freedom here. I thought we had freedom to give or not give as well. Guess not.

[iflytii]

You guys should prolly check your sources. they dont sound that credible, Wikipedia and Fox news.

As outlined on www.whitehouse.gov (credible enough?)
http://www.whitehouse.gov/agenda/service/

If you would like to see all the amendments and who voted aye or nay.

http://www.opencongress.org/bill/110-h2857/show

[87e30]

Some of the kool-aid sippers thought that his effects would not really start until two plus years into his expected first term, then on into his second. I don't think his support he gathered from being the first "Hollywood Prez" will continue much past this year, let alone by the time election year rolls around in 2011-12.

God I hope so.