Obama says no to legalizing marijuana

[Collin]

crime. the distribution of pot illegally is such a huge industry, and funds so many gangs and organized crime shit. if it was legal, all that money would be going to the government

All that makes a lot of sense.

I think we're missing a larger part of the problem with this discussion. Marijuana is currently a Class-1 narcotic, or in the same bracket as heroin, cocaine, laudanum, and opium. I know anyone that has done any will tell you they are completely different than smoking a joint after work with your buddies.

Being in the same bracket as truly dangerous drugs means that people who are busted for possession will wind up in the same prisons doing the same amount of time as people who are an actual threat to our society.

1/8th an ounce of grass should not land you in prison for 8+ years, unless you shot someone and took it.

[ragged325]

yes one could. im not hardcore against it. god knows i abused all of it to excess myself. im not a holier than thou type. i just dont see what any of it offers any of us in a positive way.
there are lots of people who can use substances in a responsible manner but many more who cant. if you could tell me any positives about legal or illegal drugs not used in a medicinal setting id love to hear it

I think it was Ben Franklin that said something to the effect of, "I'd like to think I got more out of alcohol than alcohol got out of me." I feel the same way about pot in that it has significantly increased the quality of my life. I understand that your experience was different and shaped your attitudes toward pot. There's nothing wrong with your choice to abstain, but your personal decisions are not mine.

This is probably a little too personal, but when I was a 16-25 years old, I had a hard time feeling like one of the crowd. I was probably overly self-conscious and did not have much confidence in myself. I enjoyed drinking because I felt more confident and felt like the "real" me, the more confident me, was coming out. I only smoked weed when I had a buzz because the alcohol canceled out the paranoid feelings brought on by weed.

I ended up smoking more as I got older and spent more time being stoned trying to address what was making me paranoid. I found that I was asking myself why I was looking for other people's approval and came to not care what others thought of me. I realized that my surroundings and the people I surrounded myself with affected my paranoia and learned to improve my surroundings and friends.

I learned to take responsibility for the self-doubting thoughts running through my head and to see how they were affecting the quality of my life. I learned that I could control my paranoia and by doing so, I could control myself and take control of my life. I realized what I'm responsible for doing and what is beyond my control. I take responsibility for the stuff I can control and learned to let the rest of it go.

I realized that a lot of the negative thoughts and stresses that were amplified when stoned were real problems in my life that I was not dealing with. I realized that if I wanted to enjoy being high, I had to manage my life and solve the problems that were bothering me. I now know that I can't blame someone else for the problems in my life because they are all my responsibility.

Part of all of that is stuff that happens to everyone as they get older, but I think the smoking helped. And no, I'm not stoned right now.

[e30polak]

only a real addict knows for sure. e30polack is probably in denial

I'm not in denial. I know that I'm a stoner. I simply know that I have control over smoking. I don't need my "fix" everyday, however when the opportunity presents itself, and I'm in the mood, then why not? I have no problem being classified as an "addict" to marijuana.

Weed can change your life, just like Kat Williams said:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93jQI_6G5Cw

Enjoy your mother fucking life! :pimp:

Yep. Or, he is a low level smoker and couldn't hang with the big boys.

Super low level mang. I just sit around smoking weed all day long. However, I can hang with the best chiefers. I got dem vacuum lungs yo! :woowoo:

it smells like society decaying in front of your very eyes. drugs not used for medical reasons have never done anyone any good whatsoever. all of us as humans would be better off without them.

You have a valid point, however drugs can be a lot of fun in moderation, just like alcohol. :p

[CorvallisBMW]

I think it was Ben Franklin that said something to the effect of, "I'd like to think I got more out of alcohol than alcohol got out of me." I feel the same way about pot in that it has significantly increased the quality of my life. I understand that your experience was different and shaped your attitudes toward pot. There's nothing wrong with your choice to abstain, but your personal decisions are not mine.

This is probably a little too personal, but when I was a 16-25 years old, I had a hard time feeling like one of the crowd. I was probably overly self-conscious and did not have much confidence in myself. I enjoyed drinking because I felt more confident and felt like the "real" me, the more confident me, was coming out. I only smoked weed when I had a buzz because the alcohol canceled out the paranoid feelings brought on by weed.

I ended up smoking more as I got older and spent more time being stoned trying to address what was making me paranoid. I found that I was asking myself why I was looking for other people's approval and came to not care what others thought of me. I realized that my surroundings and the people I surrounded myself with affected my paranoia and learned to improve my surroundings and friends.

I learned to take responsibility for the self-doubting thoughts running through my head and to see how they were affecting the quality of my life. I learned that I could control my paranoia and by doing so, I could control myself and take control of my life. I realized what I'm responsible for doing and what is beyond my control. I take responsibility for the stuff I can control and learned to let the rest of it go.

I realized that a lot of the negative thoughts and stresses that were amplified when stoned were real problems in my life that I was not dealing with. I realized that if I wanted to enjoy being high, I had to manage my life and solve the problems that were bothering me. I now know that I can't blame someone else for the problems in my life because they are all my responsibility.

Part of all of that is stuff that happens to everyone as they get older, but I think the smoking helped. And no, I'm not stoned right now.

You make an excellent point here. I used to smoke in high school, and suffered from a lot of the same feelings/issues. In the few times I've tried smoking since then, I always get paranoid, self-conscious, nervous, etc.. So I just don't do it anymore.

I think for some people it can be a means of escaping, a way to push your problems away and not deal with them. But then again, the same can be said for alcohol, tobacco, prescription drugs, and even food in general. How many unhappy, fat people do you know that eat to feel better? I know a few. To classify pot as a hardcore drug along with heroin and cocaine makes no sense, when really it's effects and consequences are closer to that of a cheeseburger.

[blunttech]

I think it was Ben Franklin that said something to the effect of, "I'd like to think I got more out of alcohol than alcohol got out of me." I feel the same way about pot in that it has significantly increased the quality of my life. I understand that your experience was different and shaped your attitudes toward pot. There's nothing wrong with your choice to abstain, but your personal decisions are not mine.

This is probably a little too personal, but when I was a 16-25 years old, I had a hard time feeling like one of the crowd. I was probably overly self-conscious and did not have much confidence in myself. I enjoyed drinking because I felt more confident and felt like the "real" me, the more confident me, was coming out. I only smoked weed when I had a buzz because the alcohol canceled out the paranoid feelings brought on by weed.

I ended up smoking more as I got older and spent more time being stoned trying to address what was making me paranoid. I found that I was asking myself why I was looking for other people's approval and came to not care what others thought of me. I realized that my surroundings and the people I surrounded myself with affected my paranoia and learned to improve my surroundings and friends.

I learned to take responsibility for the self-doubting thoughts running through my head and to see how they were affecting the quality of my life. I learned that I could control my paranoia and by doing so, I could control myself and take control of my life. I realized what I'm responsible for doing and what is beyond my control. I take responsibility for the stuff I can control and learned to let the rest of it go.

I realized that a lot of the negative thoughts and stresses that were amplified when stoned were real problems in my life that I was not dealing with. I realized that if I wanted to enjoy being high, I had to manage my life and solve the problems that were bothering me. I now know that I can't blame someone else for the problems in my life because they are all my responsibility.

Part of all of that is stuff that happens to everyone as they get older, but I think the smoking helped. And no, I'm not stoned right now.

i hate to tell you this but without drugs the same would of happened to you. its called growing up. every kid in this world has feelings of insecurity. its basic youth.
i can relate to everything youre saying but i have a different outlook after being without drugs for so long. im not condemning your or anyone else's recreational weed use. my oldest son smokes weed and and tells me how harmless it is. theres nothing i can do about that except hope he wises up and sees its doing him no good. he doesnt see what i see. every parent claims their kids are brilliant but he truly has a genius IQ and is funny as hell. but i can see the difference in him from the age of 18 and 25. and hes not the same kid. hes taking after his dad.

[Scotaku]

I've heard some parents discipline their kids. Sounds crazy, but it's true.

[blunttech]

I've heard some parents discipline their kids. Sounds crazy, but it's true.

youre fucking brilliant. how do you discipline a 25 yo?

[nineohfour]

i use marijuana as an anti anxiety drug. i smoke once mabey twice a day and only smoke premium. i have heard that pot is a mentally addictive drug, however im not concerned for some reason. i have recently quit smoking cigarettes and ill tell you i dont feel like i just ran arround the block ( out of breath, without doing anything) after i smoke a bowl like when i smoked tobacco, so in my eyes at least weed is no where near as dangerous as tobacco. i have actually been through major surgeries and have had more than one doctor prescribe weed "under the table". much less addictive than the opiates they can legally prescribe you.

and for all you who think weed should be illegal, IMO you are wrong. dont forget the taxpayer has to pay for all the expenses of all of the inmates who are serving 2 months because they cant afford to post bail after being arrested for smoking a joint. here in duval county i was told by a county jail admin that it is close to $600 a day per inmate! FAIL!

[FL318is]

Here it is.

I have cancer in my neck and dont smoke. Dont plan to start now. That being said, when the chemo stops and radiation begins I may have a brownie or two. Not sure if it will improve my appetite, buzz me or make me throw up, but I am keeping my options open.

Seems like the populace should have the right to speak.

"*UCK CANCER!"

[blunttech]

Here it is.

I have cancer in my neck and dont smoke. Dont plan to start now. That being said, when the chemo stops and radiation begins I may have a brownie or two. Not sure if it will improve my appetite, buzz me or make me throw up, but I am keeping my options open.

Seems like the populace should have the right to speak.

"*UCK CANCER!"

best of luck to you on your treatment dude. beat that shit and do whatever you need to do to get thru it.

[Wiglaf]

new law: if you have a terminal illness, then you are allowed to take any drug regardless of addictiveness or long-term effects.

[e30esque]

new law: if you have a terminal illness, then you are allowed to take any drug regardless of addictiveness or long-term effects.

Win.

[Lodsin]

Polak is the one who got arrested for having the weed on him at a meet, IIRC. So we know where his heart is lol.

So weed was not legalized, big fucking deal. It shouldnt be. All you lettuce smoking hippies who want to smoke your pot will do so anyways, why cry like little bitches? I hope we get a fair warning before it IS finally legalized. I need to gather some funds to buy bulk quantities of Taco Bell shares.

I believe you meant to say, 7-11 stock or just Funions and Arizona ice tea.

[CorvallisBMW]

I believe you meant to say, 7-11 stock or just Funions and Arizona ice tea.

No, I believe he meant Taco Bell.

Haven't you ever seen Undercover Brother?

"Hey, this isn't Taco Bell..." - NPH

[Collin]

No, I believe he meant Taco Bell.

Haven't you ever seen Undercover Brother?

"Hey, this isn't Taco Bell..." - NPH

A good chalupa is all I want when I'm baked. Maybe a caramel apple empanada.