Massive Solar Storm - Mayan's on to something?

[ParsedOut]

Congratulations on reviving a 4 year old thread.

He does that when the trolling gets slim.

[KI4UJO]

Congratulations on reviving a 4 year old thread.

[ParsedOut]

What do I need to shield my e30 from this? Will it be compatible with my iS lip + drop?

Hey look who used to have a sense of humor!

[einhander]

How amazing is this?

[Farbin Kaiber]

http://www.survivalblog.com/2010/09/effects_of_an_emp_attack_or_se.html

[Wiglaf]

here

don't forget the tires

[u3b3rg33k]

As for the powerlines, the real problem is DC currents induced over long runs of power line. As in there will be voltage differential proportional to the length of the run.

Actual damage to small electronics takes a much greater magnitude EMP, although radio reception will be affected, and goodbye XM/Sirius (satellites will be fux0red). Time to go build a harness with cat7 SFTP stranded wire, and to heck with that stupid negative ground system. Go fully isolated wiring. Everything gets it's own hot and cold running electrons (and holes).

[ortholithiation]

What he said. ^

What we need to keep in mind is that having one of the largest countries in terms of coverage of the globe. Thousands, (Millions???) of miles of rural fencing, power lines, copper home wiring, etc. will all act as an antenna. So, even if a small scale solar flare affects a small portion of the "grid", it can be transferred across the nation.

Did you know a nuclear weapon detonated at ~90,000 ft. will create the same EMP effect, and destroy the entire grid system we have. There are no failsafes, or back up redundancy systems in place. Interestingly enough, the US Government decided this was not an urgent issue, and did not make any moves to prevent it.

http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=69280

Don't worry the aliens won't let that happen. No nuke has ever been detonated at super high altitude or space. Whenever we try, they just shoot down the missile.

[mrsleeve]

here

[CorvallisBMW]

What do I need to shield my e30 from this? Will it be compatible with my iS lip + drop?

[Wiglaf]

There's HUGE room for improvement in most water heaters. You'll spend an extra ~$500 for a good system, but it'll pay massive dividends in efficiency within 5 years. Zone heating for your HVAC is also a good idea so you don't waste where the heat's going.

yeah i just did the windows.. while the attic was gutted (no insulation) with new windows it actually held more heat than crap insulation + old windows.

I did an analysis on my gas usage and determined that upgrading my boiler to a new one 95%+ efficiency will pay for itself in about 5 years. I can also use this heat source for my hot water.
However just doing the water tank itself.. I figure I'm only using $20/month to begin with (and that just went down w/ the lady moving out). If that part of my bill went to $0 it would still take over 2 years to see that $500... I figure it's not worth the trouble, at least until it naturally expires. Not looking forward to it though with all the safety BS the new ones have.

[Farbin Kaiber]

Also, keep in mind, this is a REAL threat.

On September 1–2, 1859, the largest recorded geomagnetic storm occurred. Aurorae were seen around the world, most notably over the Caribbean; also noteworthy were those over the Rocky Mountains that were so bright that their glow awoke gold miners, who began preparing breakfast because they thought it was morning.[3]

Telegraph systems all over Europe and North America failed.[4] Telegraph pylons threw sparks and telegraph paper spontaneously caught fire. Some telegraph systems appeared to continue to send and receive messages despite having been disconnected from their power supplies.

Now, how much "antenna" was there on the earth then, and how many gold miners had issues with their iPods and BlackBerrys? How many Country Store owners missed automated ordering for low stock items? How many people's FICO scores changed?

I just want everyone to know I'm not saying this is GONNA happen, but we should at least take heed when the signs are there. I'm not pulling a Chicken Little and saying a wormhole is gonna suck us up and put us into orbit around Sirius-B, but saying this is tangible, factual potential.

[Farbin Kaiber]

I'm not saying anything about the money, you and I both know, if they need it for a project they approve, they will just print it and sell the paper to China. I'm not saying it's right, I'm saying it's what they'd do.

So, if I put on the tin foil hat, I'd hedge my bets that;

The US/World Governments knew about coming solar activity, and have for years, either the collapse was authorized, or allowed to run it's course, to remove assets from those who have it now, that will undoubtedly not survive the event, and place those funds into the hands of those who will be prepared, and situated in a location to survive the events.

If everyone(a majority) died, there would be no way to collect the assets held, but if you slowly peeled it away, for a few years before everyone (a majority) died, no one would be the wiser. Plus, starting the ball rolling early enough would allow those to be prepared.

examples;

http://www.terravivos.com/

http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=15480

http://www.2012shelteredtechnologies.com/sheltered-community-project.php

etc.

And, another blog from a tech guy who decided to go off the beaten path.

http://laptopandarifle.wordpress.com/

[z31maniac]

Where would the hundreds of billions of dollars come from necessary to do all the work?

Are you going to tell seniors no more medicare/SS or the poor no more food stamps?

The gov't, at least around here, can't keep a decent road to drive on. They aren't going to be able to help/prevent this kind of damage.

[Farbin Kaiber]

What he said. ^

What we need to keep in mind is that having one of the largest countries in terms of coverage of the globe. Thousands, (Millions???) of miles of rural fencing, power lines, copper home wiring, etc. will all act as an antenna. So, even if a small scale solar flare affects a small portion of the "grid", it can be transferred across the nation.

Did you know a nuclear weapon detonated at ~90,000 ft. will create the same EMP effect, and destroy the entire grid system we have. There are no failsafes, or back up redundancy systems in place. Interestingly enough, the US Government decided this was not an urgent issue, and did not make any moves to prevent it.

http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=69280