A Dem blasts his own party.

[z31maniac]

Out of curiosity, what are the tax rates in the US?

http://www.moneychimp.com/features/tax_brackets.htm

Keep in mind thats just your payroll taxes.

Doesn't take into account sales tax/gas tax/property tax/etc, etc.

[mar1t1me]

Your suggestion?

Simple on the surface, but would virtually require a revolution:

Step one: Eliminate private campaign contributions. Since electing appropriate candidates is in the best interests of the people, equal resources (Money, travel, media airtime, etc) will be allotted all candidates. Resource amounts will be commensurate to the level of public office in question. No one may use personal funds or resources or ANY resources not specifically provided them by the election committee.

Step two: Eliminate all private lobbies. The Constitutional provision allowing the constituency access to their representatives can be fulfilled without the need for private lobbyists. One vote, one voice. Exception: No corporate lobbying except by persons representing entire industries and only then for purposes of educating representatives about regulatory challenges, etc, and no gifts to politicians. In order to create trust in governmental processes, the average American taxpayer needs to feel their voice will be heard, not run over by corporate special interests.

Step three: End all corporate welfare. It is socialist(!) to allow for-profit corporations access to taxpayer funds for the purposes of further enrichment.

Step four: Sit back and enjoy the best government not bought in 2 centuries.

Ain't gonna happen, though.....

[dirtysix]

Out of curiosity, what are the tax rates in the US?

[joshh]

Your suggestion?

[mar1t1me]

I've said it before and I'll say it again: you are deluding yourself if you believe any meaningful distinction between the two parties exists. They blow the way the moneyed lobbyists tell them to blow.

"Tax and spend Democrats"? As opposed to the "reduce taxes, but still spend like drunken sailors" Republicans?

[joshh]

I presume you are speaking of the so-called Tea Party?

Americans will be unpleasantly surprised when they learn that Tea Party Republicans are no different from Bush Republicans: They are against big-government tyranny, unless it’s Republican big-government tyranny.

You think the guys actually funding the Tea Party are doing anything but using the Tea Party to further their goals?

You think the Koch brothers give a shit? Not as long as they can still get their hands on your money through continued wasteful subsidies.

As opposed to the Democrats...yeah I'm willing to take that chance over the spend and tax Democrats any god damned day..

[mar1t1me]

Which is why it's important to support the only legitimate small government movement in existence today.

I presume you are speaking of the so-called Tea Party?

Americans will be unpleasantly surprised when they learn that Tea Party Republicans are no different from Bush Republicans: They are against big-government tyranny, unless it’s Republican big-government tyranny.

You think the guys actually funding the Tea Party are doing anything but using the Tea Party to further their goals?

You think the Koch brothers give a shit? Not as long as they can still get their hands on your money through continued wasteful subsidies.

[Joey Link]

The sad part is the Republicans wont be much better. If at all. Few if any of them actually realize what small Government truly means. We're in cluster fuck mode. Only when the economy returns to a decent point will all the Bureaucrats take credit for the recovery and not one of them will know why it happened....if it ever recovers.

Which is why it's important to support the only legitimate small government movement in existence today.

[joshh]

The sad part is the Republicans wont be much better. If at all. Few if any of them actually realize what small Government truly means. We're in cluster fuck mode. Only when the economy returns to a decent point will all the Bureaucrats take credit for the recovery and not one of them will know why it happened....if it ever recovers.

[gwb72tii]

So, basically you blame unemployement of Democrats and not on the world wide recession that started in the US?

well this is at least a reasonable attempt by you to not blame bush

hooray

policies that created the asset bubble (housing) go back a long way to many administrations, democrat and republican

the blame is mostly, and squarely, on the backs of congress

and democrats, mostly, are worse than republicans for overspending. they also know, by history, that tax increases DO NOT balance budgets and DO NOT create a business climate for generating growth and job creation. Yet they cannot overcome their own liberal biases and continue to follow "bigger is better and smarter" government ideology.

the public threw out the republicans, starting in 2006 (congress) and in 08 for acting like democrats. obama runs on a post-partisan kum-by-fucking-ya platform promising a new era in politics.

he lied, and now we have 4 years of democrat control over the purse strings (congress) and 2 years of the most partisan politician to be president in my 56 year lifetime.

the public is now going to throw out the democrats

[z31maniac]

So, basically you blame unemployement of Democrats and not on the world wide recession that started in the US?

The jumps/assumptions that you are able to come up with absolutely stupify me.

He asked, "What is job creation?" and I replied with "Not rising unemployment."

Please tell me where in that statement do I make mention of Democrats, the faltering economy or the recession?

[Massive Lee]

Definitely NOT rising unemployment!

So, basically you blame unemployement of Democrats and not on the world wide recession that started in the US?

[z31maniac]

What, exactly, constitutes "job creation"? No one seems to be able to explain it succinctly.

And that article sounds exactly like what the Republicans were saying about each other after they lost control....

The cycle of shit continues....

Definitely NOT rising unemployment!

But I get what you're saying.

[mr.vang]

i hate politics

[mar1t1me]

What, exactly, constitutes "job creation"? No one seems to be able to explain it succinctly.

And that article sounds exactly like what the Republicans were saying about each other after they lost control....

The cycle of shit continues....