Pro-gun myths busted

[frankenbeemer]

Lastly, one more truth becomes evident upon recognizing that demographics are the main factor in criminality: even if you do believe in gun control, imposing it federally and applying a one-size fits all standard is ridiculous. In terms of people and crime, there’s a world of difference between towns in New Hampshire or Vermont, with their England-level murder rates, and cities such as East St. Louis, IL, or Detroit, which rival El Salvador in citizen lethality. You can make gun control the same everywhere, but you can’t change the fact that people will be very, very different.

[ParsedOut]

Interesting article.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2014/06/how_covering_up_minority_crime_leads_to_gun_control.html

[frankenbeemer]

I find reductio ad absurdum plus snark to be an unbeatable combination.

[cale]

Right, armed psycho with a gun will automatically be thwarted by any do-gooder with a CCW amidst the chaos. There definitely could be no outside factors preventing them from doing so, or the more likely, them getting their ass to safety instead of playing hero.

Armed individuals may stop a shooter here and there, but you best bet that gun is being aimed right at you as soon as you challenge them. We're talking pistols here vs. someone who's not stable and hoped up on all sorts of adrenaline, chances are they're getting off a shot or two in your direction.

[BDSax]

Exactly. And it is not covered by the news

[The Dark Side of Will]

Mass shootings aren't stopped by armed civilians because they are in gun free zones!

What fucking tools

And if someone tries to make a mass shooting with an armed bystander nearby, it ends up NOT being a mass shooting!

[BDSax]

Mass shootings aren't stopped by armed civilians because they are in gun free zones!

What fucking tools

[The Dark Side of Will]

If you're more worried about having your property taken from you than you are about your own mental health...I'm not sure what to say of that.

Why shouldn't a person be allowed to get help AND keep all their stuff?

[The Dark Side of Will]

90% of Americans and 74% of NRA members think they're reasonable: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...cal-slam-dunk/

Sorry to burst your extremist bubble.

Citing WaPo as an authority on gun rights = LOL

[frankenbeemer]

90% of Americans and 74% of NRA members think they're reasonable: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...cal-slam-dunk/

Sorry to burst your extremist bubble.

Yes, there is wide agreement on the generality, but many reconsider when the details of implementation are revealed. I find it notable that: "respondents who prioritized gun rights were more than four times as likely as those backing gun control to donate money to an organization that takes a position on gun policy. More than four in 10 gun rights supporters (42 percent) reported participating in at least one type of political activism on the issue, compared with 25 percent of those prioritizing gun control.
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[ParsedOut]

90% of Americans and 74% of NRA members think they're reasonable: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...cal-slam-dunk/

Sorry to burst your extremist bubble.

Most of which don't have a firm understanding of what that really entails.

http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showpost.php?p=4138069&postcount=203

[CorvallisBMW]

Calling people dumb is just more evidence of your emotional attachment to the issue. Why would a rational person think your "reasonable" solutions are reasonable?

90% of Americans and 74% of NRA members think they're reasonable: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...cal-slam-dunk/

Sorry to burst your extremist bubble.

[mrsleeve]

the point is this is the direction we are heading in

[BraveUlysses]

No the lesson is not to be public about your beliefs, not to discuss such topics with a medical professional and not wear your empty holster to your doctors visit. The real lesson here is that if you own firearms and are feeling a little off in the head or a bit depressed DONT SEEK treatment for it or you will be stripped of your rights and invaded by the state against your will to protect you from your self, if you need it or not.

What would stop a nurse or receptionist or pharmacist at the Obama care approved facility with a mother jones app on their phone from calling in something similar because I have a O/C pistol on my hip and picked up my scrip of prozac for my cat (yes it works for curbing pissing around in some cats) and the wife's Wlebutrin (sp) scrips.

I believe you laughed off farbins similar "hypothetical" not all that long ago and less than a month latter the 7th up holds a very similar REAL case.

Yes, I laughed it off and I'm laughing off your even dumber hypothetical. She was seeking counseling with her psychiatrist not picking up a prescription.

If you're more worried about having your property taken from you than you are about your own mental health...I'm not sure what to say of that.

[frankenbeemer]

So then why do gun nuts have a hernia every time someone suggests enforcing the current laws we already have on the books barring the mentally-ill from buying guns by closing loopholes in background checks?

So even though I've said that YES I think people should be able to own guns, that NO I don't think all guns should be taken away, and that REASONABLE laws such as not allowing felons or the mentally ill to buy guns, having universal background checks, licensing and training requirements, and waiting periods, are the only laws I support... You think I'm saying the exact opposite?

I can't tell if the two of you are high, or just really dumb.

Look, saying "I support background checks on gun sales" doesn't make me any more anti-gun than saying "I support stopping at stop signs" makes me anti-car.

Calling people dumb is just more evidence of your emotional attachment to the issue. Why would a rational person think your "reasonable" solutions are reasonable?