Mtech II Vert

[mRodiek]

Damn I miss Chicago...

[Edev]

Drop hats.

[CrusherCurtis]

I gotta say, your car is awesome! I can't tell you how close I was to getting those esm's but I went with the 004's instead. I very happy with my wheels but damn after seeing those on your Mtech I wonder if I should have gone with those. And everybody would love to have BBS's, but I can't see paying almost what I paid for my car for them. Car looks great!

You paid $1000 for an mtech?

[mtechrisII]

I gotta say, your car is awesome! I can't tell you how close I was to getting those esm's but I went with the 004's instead. I very happy with my wheels but damn after seeing those on your Mtech I wonder if I should have gone with those. And everybody would love to have BBS's, but I can't see paying almost what I paid for my car for them. Car looks great!

[nrubenstein]

it's not the camera it's the photographer

read this and you'll be amazed

http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/notcamera.htm

When it comes to low light performance, it's mostly camera. Obviously, the photographer is a critical element without which a decent picture can not be taken.

And I've read that. A long time ago. You can take a good picture in the right circumstances with almost any camera. Taking a picture in the dark without a flash is where equipment starts to really matter. Those are the wrong circumstances. The more light you have, the less cameras differentiate themselves (although higher end equipment offers more options for composition).

Try taking a picture in near dark conditions with a P&S or a serious camera. One of them will either record black or a gigantic blur and one of them will actually take a decent picture.

[mr.vang]

it's not the camera it's the photographer

read this and you'll be amazed

http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/notcamera.htm

[nrubenstein]

Thanks for answering my question, I torrent everything and tried using photoshop, but it didn't really look better. I need more work at it.

To elaborate further, a large portion of it is basic physics. Essentially, the bigger your camera's sensor is, the more light particles hit it. That's why the Nikon D3/D700 are absolutely magical in low light. Great big sensors with relatively low resolution output that'll shoot at absurdly high ISOs without producing significant noise. Obviously there's more to it than that, but that is why DSLRs and other large sensor cameras will ALWAYS be ahead of the game. They just have far, far more to work with. Something like 30 times the area for a typical SLR and around 90 times the area for a full frame one.

Sad isn't it?

[CrusherCurtis]

Painted them red, they look better in person

[Vivek]

Are those factory red tails or painted?

[evandael]

regarding the photos.. i don't know what kind of digicam youre using but using a tripod, longer shutter times, and lower ISO than the camera typically sets for 'auto' shots will help. unfortunately many P&S don't cooperate with that level of manual control.

also setting the white balance to mitigate that sickly orange/yellow hue from the sodium vapor street lamps is a must. though that can be changed in photoshop, it's better to fix on camera.

car is nice though, but i agree about the wheels. spend some coin on that fine automobile, it's like a good looking woman, you just buy her stuff because, well... because!

[ak-]

I re-looked at that. IT definitely does look like a refill. Even though they're supposed to be esm's...

Not a refill.
When I ordered from ESM (widebodye30) he said they didn't have anymore 4x100 so he'd drill a set of 5x100 and it would be dual drilled. I don't really like wheels with more that 5 holes in em, but I figured I would have a center cap and it would even help me sell faster when the time came.

Well that explains it

[Manzaa]

Love the whip homie!!

[CrusherCurtis]

The best way to reduce noise is to buy a camera that isn't crap. There are some noise reduction plugins for photoshop that work pretty well, but by the time you've bought photoshop and the plugins (they are not cheap), you're almost at the cost of a usable DSLR.

Thanks for answering my question, I torrent everything and tried using photoshop, but it didn't really look better. I need more work at it.

Your car looks great, no doubt. It's in much better condition than most m-tech IIs, including mine. Take it with a grain of salt and no offense, but your car is an authentic M-tech II, and it deserves real 3-piece BBS wheels and smoked Hella smileys, IMHO.

I was kinda thinking the same thing, but can't really justify that cost, I am considering buying a used set of used Super rs, (18's :-)) and just refinishing them, that would probably cost $3k+ and that's still steep.

Now these new super RS give me wet dreams, but at more than 5k, its a no way.


The Esm's don't look as good as bbs's, but they do look good, no if's and's or but's. They look better than I expected. If I were to put a bbs sticker on the esm logo, only some one like us who looks and this stuff everyday could tell the difference. While I do have a lot of respect for the Mtech, I never wanted it in the first place, it was just fairly priced at a time when no other vert was fairly priced. So I'm already way over budget.

I re-looked at that. IT definitely does look like a refill. Even though they're supposed to be esm's...

Not a refill.
When I ordered from ESM (widebodye30) he said they didn't have anymore 4x100 so he'd drill a set of 5x100 and it would be dual drilled. I don't really like wheels with more that 5 holes in em, but I figured I would have a center cap and it would even help me sell faster when the time came.

[FunfGan]

Am I the only one noticing that 17" style 5 passenger rear?
So you're confident on the redrill?

I re-looked at that. IT definitely does look like a refill. Even though they're supposed to be esm's...

[robrez]

Your car looks great, no doubt. It's in much better condition than most m-tech IIs, including mine. Take it with a grain of salt and no offense, but your car is an authentic M-tech II, and it deserves real 3-piece BBS wheels and smoked Hella smileys, IMHO.