Sketching

[nickflic3]

haha that's awesome man!

I will eventually get in to the rendering side of things

[masduro]

[SkiFree]

Found another rambling from a few years back...

[masduro]

^^^all good ad-vice. Also the axis of the wheel elipse is 90 deg to the axle.

ms paint illustrates this in red.

[nickflic3]

My class instruction is all coming back to me haha I remember you doing transportation design; are you teaching or in a studio now?

The "peaking" trick as I call it is very useful, sometimes even my friends will spot off-lines and angles and I can immediately see it when I turn the paper over.

As for starting with the wheels, it is something I try to do as much as possible. I need to do more of the measuring; The Academy of Art instructor taught us to measure wheelbase with the amount of wheel in between so that SUV's have longer wheel bases and roadsters have smaller ones.

Tips were useful thanks!

btw how would you finish this one, just draw over and use marker? I wanted to finish it but having the wheel all the way in the back was a turn off (feel free to continue the sketch any way you like)

[JamesE30]

What you are referring to when you say "sketching in 3D" is perspective. I find an excellent way to get started for beginners and the way I learnt, is to use plenty of guidelines. Draw a rectangular prism in perspective that is to scale with the vehicle you wish to draw, ad your ellipses for your wheels and get those right first. draw all four wheels to give you a better idea of the proportions.
random image off the net:



An excellent way to check the perspective of your sketch is to flip it, hold it up and look through the back of the page. Generally speaking, it will be extremely obvious if something is wrong, even if it looked correct in the orientation you were drawing it.

Look at a similar vehicle as a reference. For example if you are drawing a 2 door sports coupe, maybe look at an R8 and use the wheels as a measuring tool to get a similar wheelbase.



You can see the front and rear wheels are over four diameters apart. I can almost guarantee you the original Audi sketch for the R8 did not have the wheels 4 and a bit diameters apart. This is called cheating the sketch. Basically altering the plausibility of the concept to allow for a more exciting image (bigger wheels, lower ride height, chopped roof, no tires etc..). Don't be afraid to use a bit of artistic license, but don't go overboard.

The most important thing to set up it your wheelbase in perspective and maybe a rough guide line 'box' your vehicle is going to fit in. Once you hev those, let your creativity flow.

As a beginner/intermediate and even pro's, you won't nail the sketch first time. In fact many professionals will sketch over their original sketch 20-30-50.. even hundreds of times, altering small things and carefully perfecting it a little more each time. There is nothing wrong with sketching over your own sketches, and sketching over other peoples sketches can be a very helpful way to learn too as a beginner.

Remember, keep sketching over! Keep flipping it! Almost any sketch can be made into a cool design with enough sketch overs!

Hope that helps a bit

[nickflic3]

Honestly have that same problem. If you see my sketches on the last page, they are mostly the same kind of general angle that shows the whole car; same angle I started drawing "3D" in years ago.

Above picture was done by looking at a pic on my phone.

[gtdragon980]

I can draw for the most part, but only with the use of a reference picture. No, I don't mean trace either. I really wish I could draw my own e30 but I have a hard time with angles and depth. It's hard to visualize that kind of stuff in my head and then put it on paper. Any of you awesome artists have any tips on angles, depth, and anything else that would help me get back into my artistic days?

[nickflic3]

I have problems with getting inspired and not providing ample spacing lol

Said fuk it, didn't throw in too much detail; 5 min sketch

[masduro]

[42000]

e30 I drew for school...

[masduro]

[dirtysix]

dirtysix is the second car down orange with white stripes a rx4?

Ra28 Toyota Celica.

The red at the bottom is RX4.

[masduro]

Didn't use search button. Thread already exists.

This is r3v. Check your vaginal sand at the door.

[nickflic3]

Didn't use search button. Thread already exists.
http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=248825

Post anything art related that combines your, or any BMW. This includes paintings, sketches, doodles, arts and crafts, or even photos of your car in front of graffiti'd wall. Even origami will work. Anything that includes a BMW and art of any kind will follow rules.

There's a reason I went "all out" in here, more than just bimmers ;)