Pic request: ESM 002r wheels

[z6ne]

Looking for pictures of ESM 002r gm wheels, 16" or 17" on e30s, preferably all black, and black center with silver lip.

Cant decide between this:

http://esmwheels.com/access/002r-p-166.html

or this:

http://esmwheels.com/access/002r-p-178.html

[shameson]

http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=242409&page=14

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[makeshift]

I bought a set of staggered 16" 002r GMs a few weeks ago.

Here's a pic:

My baby is currently undergoing maintenance, so she is on jack stands for the time being.

Some things you should know
The rims aren't perfect, but that's expected for the price.
widebodye30, an ESM sales representative on this forum, recommends tire sizes 205/45/16 and 215/40/16 for a staggered set up on an E30.
Staggered set up is big boss. NICE!

[z6ne]

I bought a set of staggered 16" 002r GMs a few weeks ago.

My baby is currently undergoing maintenance, so she is on jack stands for the time being.

Some things you should know
The rims aren't perfect, but that's expected for the price.
widebodye30, an ESM sales representative on this forum, recommends tire sizes 205/45/16 and 215/40/16 for a staggered set up on an E30.
Staggered set up is big boss. NICE!

what does it mean if they're staggered?


Now all I need is a pic of the black/black ones.

[IRON-E]

There's a full thread on ESMs, look in the members rides section.

Staggered; one is bigger then the other, for example 16x7.5 & 16x9 would be a staggered set up., needing a tire size of 205/45/16 for the (16x7.5) & 215/40/16 for the (16x9).
Hope that clears things up.

[lambo]

Some things you should know
The rims aren't perfect, but that's expected for the price.
widebodye30, an ESM sales representative on this forum, recommends tire sizes 205/45/16 and 215/40/16 for a staggered set up on an E30.
Staggered set up is big boss. NICE!

Honestly... that staggered tire setup is pretty dumb, imo. The difference between a 205 and a 215 is 10mm, that's 5mm on either side, not enough to compensate for the inch and a half difference in wheel widths. Plus, a 215/40 is shorter than a 205/45... If you're gonna bother with 9's in the back go to a 225/45 or something.

[z6ne]

I dont think I'm gonna go with the staggered setup so I can rotate my tires normally.

Other than that how are the general quality of these wheels? BBS RS knockoffs right? But I've heard both good and bad things about them. Any insight? Are they really 3 piece or do they just look like it?

[willworkfore30s]

Mine are not staggered 16x8 225/45/16's H&R race and billy sports
GM, no caps.



With caps

[z6ne]

^ nice

Did you just slap some BMW stickers on the ESM caps or are those from weaves?

someone school me on offsets, and what works well with a stock e30 suspension

[willworkfore30s]

ET 20 is what you want for offset on a stock car. You could space them out more but not with tires as wide as mine. And yes, those are just vinyl roundels on the ESM caps. In the picture it looks like the caps don't quite match the wheels but the wheels have a couple weeks of brake dust on them and in real life they look better.

[z6ne]

so what exactly is et 20 a measurement of?
I know pretty much nothing about wheels.

[willworkfore30s]

The mounting surface is 20mm away from the centerline of the wheel

[lambo]

so what exactly is et 20 a measurement of?
I know pretty much nothing about wheels.

Take a wheel, cut it exactly in half like you would cut a bagel. If the mounting point of the wheel (that part that directly touches the hub) lines up with your cut, then your wheel would be et0. Now take that mounting point and move it away from your car, every millimeter you move it out adds a 1 to your et. i.e. moving the mounting point of an originally et0 wheel 20 millimeters away from the car gives an et20. Conversely, moving the mounting point one millimeter towards the inside of the car subtracts a 1 from your et. i.e. moving the mounting point of an originally et0 wheel 10 millimeters towards the interior of the car gives an et-10.

[z6ne]

Take a wheel, cut it exactly in half like you would cut a bagel. If the mounting point of the wheel (that part that directly touches the hub) lines up with your cut, then your wheel would be et0. Now take that mounting point and move it away from your car, every millimeter you move it out adds a 1 to your et. i.e. moving the mounting point of an originally et0 wheel 20 millimeters away from the car gives an et20. Conversely, moving the mounting point one millimeter towards the inside of the car subtracts a 1 from your et. i.e. moving the mounting point of an originally et0 wheel 10 millimeters towards the interior of the car gives an et-10.

that was a perfect explanation thanks man
But now I want a bagel...

[willworkfore30s]

Take a wheel, cut it exactly in half like you would cut a bagel. If the mounting point of the wheel (that part that directly touches the hub) lines up with your cut, then your wheel would be et0. Now take that mounting point and move it away from your car, every millimeter you move it out adds a 1 to your et. i.e. moving the mounting point of an originally et0 wheel 20 millimeters away from the car gives an et20. Conversely, moving the mounting point one millimeter towards the inside of the car subtracts a 1 from your et. i.e. moving the mounting point of an originally et0 wheel 10 millimeters towards the interior of the car gives an et-10.

Thats what I just said ;)