UCLA student get tazed... WTF????

[E30 Wagen]

im sick of college students that think they know everything and think they are entitled.

+1

It's dumb how people seem to think that cops are aggressive, power hungry puppets brainwashed by our oppressive government, or whatever, and it's their duty to rally together to fight back and free us from its tyranny.

"Yeah, I just read, like 1984. If you really think about, like I just did for a few minutes, our society, or I mean, like, our government, is like, ten years away from that. I heard this story about a cop who shot a guy, and it's like wtf? Our government totally sucks..."

[chucko]

in the video i watched i couldnt tell what fucking race he was. i had already formed an opinion before i even saw the shitbag. if im a cop and i see a muslim at any hour of the day where he shouldnt be im questioning him. call me a racist, i dont care.

what you're saying is ignorant dude and yes that behavior is racist. How can you tell a person is muslim? muslim is not a race, it's a religion. There are muslims of every color in the human spectrum. That's like saying you'd stop each christian you see on the street, how do you know who's christian? What you should have said is if you were a cop and saw an ARAB at any hour of the day you'd question him. either way you say it, it's racist and illegal for a cop to do that in this country.

On another note, we used to put people in internment camps if they were from a country we were at war with. Remember the japanese during WWII.
Should we be doing this now?

[e30tom]

Yeah I know it is huh... If only more people were the world would be a better place. Or do we need more cocky prick, gay bashing, racist ass wholes, that support these sort of cocky prick, gay bashing, racist ass whole cops. Like I said, move to Texas where people like you fit in better.

Wow....you just get more ignorant with every post. Thanks for the laughs.

And here's a free one for you, it's asshole, not ass whole. Carry on.

[ping65810]

I don't care what everyone else thinks, I have met and dealt with people from all over the country, and traveled to all over the country. There is a reason that I like New England. I have never met more racist, bigoted assholes than from the south. I have met people who hated me because I was Catholic. WTF????

I was always raised in an area where ANY bigotry is not socially acceptable. Period. Against race, religion, sex, national origin, sexual preferance, etc. And it is not accpetable. Our country was built on freedon from persecution, and full freedoms in every way. Yet we still have a country where bigotry is not only still prevalent in some areas, but actually encouraged.
I don't argue politics for a reason, because I get very aggrevated with ignorant and unmoral people.

[chucko]

Our country was built on freedon from persecution, and full freedoms in every way.

Sorry man, but this is just not true. We still had slavery in this country for 100 years after the declaration of independence, and Jim Crow laws for 100 years after slavery. That's a nice thought, but simply not true if you were black. The last 40 years have seen tremendous change and IMO we are now living in a country that gives everyone the best opportunity for "freedom from persecution, and full freedoms in every way". Still not totally equal though, but has the potential to get there.

[trent]

I was always raised in an area where ANY bigotry is not socially acceptable. Period. Against race, religion, sex, national origin, sexual preferance, etc. And it is not accpetable. Our country was built on freedon from persecution, and full freedoms in every way. Yet we still have a country where bigotry is not only still prevalent in some areas, but actually encouraged.
I don't argue politics for a reason, because I get very aggrevated with ignorant and unmoral people.

I do think we should have racial profiling in airports.

It would save millions of people lots of time.

[Julien]

Same typical shit. Convservatives uphold use of power and liberals are outraged. It would make me happy when Americans could meet half way and not seperate the country so much based on what they think is "the right way of living life" and start understanding that due to america's size, there can't be a one size fits all policy.

What I do find amusing, however, is that the people who live the most comfortable lives, ie dwellers of wayzata for instance, traditionally think america is too soft and should tolerate less. While the people who do live in the ghettos and deal with harsh situations from day to day beg for tolerance. Perhaps being the alpha male isn't as easy as to be when you are faced with high uncertainty from day to day.

I do hope, however that one day, americans can look past their learned beleifs and perhaps understand a bit more versus critisize what they think they know. The more humble you are, the more you are likely to learn.

Anyways, this is just something of an open ended post regarding this constant left vs right bashing. feel free to contribute.


Julien

[Julien]

I do think we should have racial profiling in airports.

It would save millions of people lots of time.

says the anglosaxon male.

[trent]

says the anglosaxon male.

Plenty of others who are not white and agree.

[Julien]

Plenty of others who are not white and agree.

Okay, now think of this.
In terms of "Terrorist value addition" the person who commits the terrorist act is not that important. They have a full vertical integrated chain of researching, planning and oversight, right?, so what happens if they outsource the last step of the "ladder" to an anglosaxon, for instance?

Like in a corporation, it would cost them a bit more in terms of money, but, if striving for efficacy, it'd be worth it. Case point, if you target "muslim/arabs/terrorists/whatever stereotype" in airports then the terrorists will just find a someone who won't be targeted.

To understand why knee jerk reactionist style ideology won't work while trying to deal with terrorism you have to understand the deep passionate roots from where is stands. The movie Munich does a good example of explaining this to the average joe.


Julien

[Rennsport]

kid deserved getting tazered, but not that many times. i have been tazered. its not fun. And yes it is hard to get up afterwords, but you still can. expecially if their are *two cops helping you (as seen in the video)

(i wasnt doing anything illegal to get tazered, but im not going to go into detail why i was, cuz its really stupid reason)

[DanielHStout]

Wow....you just get more ignorant with every post. Thanks for the laughs.

And here's a free one for you, it's asshole, not ass whole. Carry on.

You sir are an arrogant prick... And that is all I have to say about that.

As far as the racial profiling topic goes... It is wrong. It has always been wrong, and it is still wrong. Who knows if the cops were questioning everyone? It doesn't really matter in this case anyway. What "terrorist" is going to target a college library late at night? I supposed it could happen anywhere but not very likely. This isn't a question of racial profiling or terrorism its a case of police brutality. I am not saying that the kid may not have needed to be tazed maybe one time (not likely) but anything more than one time is excessive. He was obviously not a serious threat. The officers handled the situation wrong. Period, end of story. If you see it any other way than your moral judgement is more than just fucked up.

[trent]

He was obviously not a serious threat. The officers handled the situation wrong. Period, end of story. If you see it any other way than your moral judgement is more than just fucked up.

Please explain, since you were there and in the officers positions, as how YOU KNOW the guy was not a "serious threat." Anybody who defines police orders, and wants others to join in against the police, certainly could possibly be considered a "serious threat."

YOU are one overjudging people. YOU are the type that are going to turn this country into a haven of crime and terrorism, not letting the police do their job without bullshit critcism. YOU are one of those cock sucking liberals that wants to give amnesty to all those fucking illegals, aren't you?

[joshh]

I will ask you to look at the bigger picture: these terrorist assholes are using computers/internet to communicate and plan other attacks. or even send an email or signal to another machine programmed to detonate a bomb. would you have a problem with them using the computer then? Now, I'm not saying this guy was a terrorist and it's unfortunate that the Muslim community is catching all kinds of hell right now which draws a lot of media attention. Here's the bottom line: This guy broke the rules, got belligerent, incited a riot, and got exactly what the situation warranted. Those officers had to act quickly to deescalate the situation before things got out of hand.

Just because you're not paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you.

My $0.02

And so did Rodney king right. A terrorist doesn't need to use the computers from a college...lol.
It would have been so much easier if they had just ankle cuffed the guy and dragged him out of there. Instead they made the situation worse by trying to get a guy who flat out wont cooperate to cooperate...silly. The cops are supposed to make these situations less not instigate them to be worse than needed. Again, we still didn't get to see the begining of what happened.

[trent]

The cops are supposed to make these situations less not instigate them to be worse than needed. Again, we still didn't get to see the begining of what happened.

Thanks for your comment, even though you know we didn't see the beginning yet need to judge. Fuck you.