Tires for track wheels- (14s?)

[kishg]

With the current motor (M20B27) I can't run SpecE30, and especially once I do my top-end build, I won't qualify, but I DO like the idea that the SE30 setup has been tried and tested. More seat time, less wrench time.

I was searching for all of the wrong user names on here!

i know your partially into your swap but if i was you I'd just swap an entire i motor in and be done with it.

[phenryiv1]

i know your partially into your swap but if i was you I'd just swap an entire i motor in and be done with it.

If I had half a brain, that would be what I'd do. If I did not have so much money tied up in parts, I'd find an M20B25 in running condition, buy it, and drive. I have $100-150 in seals, gaskets, etc., plus $225 in swap hardparts (head, IM, ECU, etc.).

If I had it to do again I'd have just bought an "is" to begin with.

So many things that I have done wrong...

[kishg]

it may not be too late.. sell the parts and source an i motor. that's an i head with i IM, ECU correct? should be easy to sell. what seals/gaskets do you have?

[phenryiv1]

it may not be too late.. sell the parts and source an i motor. that's an i head with i IM, ECU correct? should be easy to sell. what seals/gaskets do you have?

Yeah- I head (885) with everything that bolts from there on up/forward, plus ECU, and cluster.

As for gaskets, I have all of the top-end stuff- IM gasket, head gasket, VC gasket, head bolts, WP and T-stat gaskets, TB kit, new WP, new T-stat, Cam seals, etc. Missing the exhaust mani gaskets, but pretty much everything else.

[phenryiv1]

On a somewhat related note, I just got a PM about a new set of the wheels (no tires) on my "preferred" list for $375 shipped.

[kishg]

Yeah- I head (885) with everything that bolts from there on up/forward, plus ECU, and cluster.

As for gaskets, I have all of the top-end stuff- IM gasket, head gasket, VC gasket, head bolts, WP and T-stat gaskets, TB kit, new WP, new T-stat, Cam seals, etc. Missing the exhaust mani gaskets, but pretty much everything else.

so sell the head and bolt-ons and pickup a motor, keep the gaskets/t-belt kit and freshen the motor you got, pull eta and swap in i motor.. no brainer ;)

[phenryiv1]

so sell the head and bolt-ons and pickup a motor, keep the gaskets/t-belt kit and freshen the motor you got, pull eta and swap in i motor.. no brainer ;)

That is probably easier than building my 2.7i...

Can I use a motor from an auto?

[kishg]

That is probably easier than building my 2.7i...

Can I use a motor from an auto?

yes you can. again, get in touch with levent or turk, they can source a motor for you.

[phenryiv1]

I just emailed them.

I feel myself sinking into a pit of spending...

So new question- I have to run certain tires if I eventually go SpecE30, correct? And they are not really appropriate for the street, correct?

Crap.

[kishg]

I just emailed them.

I feel myself sinking into a pit of spending...

So new question- I have to run certain tires if I eventually go SpecE30, correct? And they are not really appropriate for the street, correct?

Crap.

Yes, you need to run Toyo RA-1s (R-comps). I'd go with street tires for now and when you have some more experience get a set of RA-1s.

[Wh33lhop]

I just emailed them.

I feel myself sinking into a pit of spending...

So new question- I have to run certain tires if I eventually go SpecE30, correct? And they are not really appropriate for the street, correct?

Crap.

You have to run 15x7 or 14x6 (well I think it's 14x6, but nobody runs those) wheels, at least 13.5lbs (the TRM C1s are a bit too light for SE30). SE30 tires are either RA1s or R888s, I can't remember what they are off the top of my head. Either way they're certainly streetable, especially if the car isn't a DD. Nando's running 235/50R15 R888s and I think he said they'd worn pretty well at 7-10k miles including track days and autox.

Edit: apparently they're RA1s :p

[kishg]

You have to run 15x7 or 14x6 (well I think it's 14x6, but nobody runs those) wheels, at least 13.5lbs (the TRM C1s are a bit too light for SE30). SE30 tires are either RA1s or R888s, I can't remember what they are off the top of my head. Either way they're certainly streetable, especially if the car isn't a DD. Nando's running 235/50R15 R888s and I think he said they'd worn pretty well at 7-10k miles including track days and autox.

Edit: apparently they're RA1s :p

13# is the minimum. Tires are switched back to RA-1 for 2010 since Toyo started making them again after everyone bitched about R-888s. R-888s are still allowed through some grace period IIRC.

14x6.5 is also an allowed wheel size. allowed tire sizes are 205/55/14 or 205/50/15

[Wh33lhop]

There you go. I was just quoting shit off the top of my head. If 13lbs is the minimum then the TRM 15x7 wheels will work I think (13.1lbs?), but the 15x8s are obviously spec E30 illegal.

[rwh11385]

I've tracked and autocrossed falken azenis rt-215 in 195 on 14's as well as 205 on 15's. 195 got too hot and greasy quickly, and the 205s performed well on the track. auto-x they were fine either size and pretty fast

I've also ran 205 es100s on 15s and they put up well with tracking and auto-x, although not fast. I have a set of 205-60-14s now, but have not tracked them yet. They go alright at auto-x and street, albeit not as sticky. Skafrog was a big fan of them, and they're a good size on 14s

[phenryiv1]

Still torn on whether to build the car for SpecE30, since I am a total rookie, but I would love to jump straight to 15s, right off of the bat.