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  • kencopperwheat
    King of Kegstands
    • Oct 2003
    • 14396

    #1

    Auto-X with a Z4 3.0 lever

    I'm considering doing any auto-x this weekend and I'm concerned about the Z4 3.0 lever I have. I'm affraid that downshifting into first under high loads will give me a hell of a time. It's not that I can't force it in, it just seems like it'd take a bit more effort and thus extra time when shifting...

    Do any of you who auto-x use this lever? If so, how's it been?
    Originally posted by Gruelius
    and i do not know what bugg brakes are.
  • Matt86es
    Mod Crazy
    • Aug 2004
    • 616

    #2
    I am sure that you are more experienced than me, but most of the auto-x courses that I've been to, the experts say that it is actually more beneficial to stay in 2nd on almost all of the turns. The extra time it takes you to shift plus the weight transfer causes your balance to be off.

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    • kencopperwheat
      King of Kegstands
      • Oct 2003
      • 14396

      #3
      Me = no experience in auto-xing.

      I'll probably be getting a lot of advice though from guys there.
      Originally posted by Gruelius
      and i do not know what bugg brakes are.

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      • Matt86es
        Mod Crazy
        • Aug 2004
        • 616

        #4
        Well, I definately reccomend walking the course with a pro and they will help you determine when and if you need to downshift as well as many other things. If there are any experienced auto-xers just standing around I would ask if they could ride with you and give you some pointers. The knowledge gained will more than equal out your added weight and possibly slower time during that run and most people are more than glad to help. In my limited experience, the only cars that ever get in 1rst are ones that HAVE to keep revs up such as turbos, 4 bangers with VTEC or similar, or maybe rotary engines.

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        • f u z z
          E30 Mastermind
          • Jul 2004
          • 1600

          #5
          I autox and i have the 3.0.

          I can be topped out at 2nd, slow down then heel / toe to revmatch and peg it at 4500 in 1st. i love my 3.0 (but this was on the road course last weekend haha ) :twisted:

          beleive me, you wont find yourself going into 1st at on Auto-x with a high rmp load. no point realy unless your going through like a dead stop 90 degree turn. just stay in first as long as you can, then get to second, and stay there as long as you can. I dotn drop back down to first unless i get below 3k. BE SMOOTH. SMOOTH = WIN.


          learn to heel/toe, its great.

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          • ///M Powered
            E30 Enthusiast
            • Jan 2004
            • 1109

            #6
            I auto-x'ed my 318i with the 3.0 and had no problems, however I never had to downshift . Like fuzz mentioned, you probably wont downshift unless it's a very tight turn, and you wont come out of 3rd unless there's a long straight( in wich case people jsut bounce the revlimiter anyway :twisted: ).

            Go out there and have some fun, you'll be addicted even if it is with the little m10 :P

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            • Bill 84 318i
              E30 Mastermind
              • Oct 2003
              • 1600

              #7
              I think I've only ever been on one course where I downshifted to first for a turn (and that was only one run...it just wasn't beneficial to do it on the others). Even with the shitty power down low (or lack thereof) from an M10, it's usually not worth it.

              I vote for leaving it in second and just focusing more on making the car go in the direction you want it to.

              Have fun, and whoop some 325i's ;) - I've left a few wondering what they're doing wrong.

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              • ///M Powered
                E30 Enthusiast
                • Jan 2004
                • 1109

                #8
                Originally posted by Bill 84 318i
                I I've left a few wondering what they're doing wrong.
                8) 4 cyl for life.

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                • Nick325is
                  E30 Fanatic
                  • Oct 2003
                  • 1409

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Bill 84 318i
                  I think I've only ever been on one course where I downshifted to first for a turn (and that was only one run...it just wasn't beneficial to do it on the others). Even with the shitty power down low (or lack thereof) from an M10, it's usually not worth it.

                  I vote for leaving it in second and just focusing more on making the car go in the direction you want it to.

                  Have fun, and whoop some 325i's ;) - I've left a few wondering what they're doing wrong.
                  Bill, you my friend are an asshole :nice:


                  Nick

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                  • Charlie
                    kid tested, administrator approved
                    • Oct 2003
                    • 6686

                    #10
                    You have no reason to be shifting to first gear, don't sweat it.

                    -Charlie
                    Swing wild, brake later, don't apologize.
                    '89 324d, '76 02, '98 318ti, '03 Z4, '07 MCS, '07 F800s - Bonafide BMW elitist prick.
                    FYYFF

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                    • Mystikal
                      Moderator
                      Wheel Fitment Expert
                      • Nov 2003
                      • 9602

                      #11
                      At my local course I'm 80% of the time in 1st; it's extremely tight. I also have a Z4 3.0 shift lever, and I've never gotten completely hung up but sometimes it has been a bit of a struggle to get 'er into 1st.

                      Don't worry about it and just go drive. Until your first run all you're going to be doing is worrying about stupid crap like this, but after that you're all good.

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                      • spud814
                        Wrencher
                        • Oct 2003
                        • 287

                        #12
                        You won't need first gear.

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                        • jweb
                          E30 Modder
                          • Oct 2003
                          • 959

                          #13
                          I needed 1st gear at my last auto x. We had like three u-turns.
                          Jamie Webster
                          '89 325is - sold :(
                          '96 Miata - sold
                          '01 M5 - sold
                          '02 Civic Si

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                          • trent

                            #14
                            autox sux

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                            • BS87
                              E30 Mastermind
                              • Oct 2003
                              • 1606

                              #15
                              Originally posted by trent
                              autox sux
                              Word, Oval for life, mang.

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