Track Times Thread

[Wanganstyle]

I would love to see some comparison times between an e36 M3 and e30 by the same driver on the same course.

OK. I will do, I have an e30 getting an alpina/H&B 327S 2.7 10.5:1 motor with conversion from l-jet to motronic 1.3, I will take it to buttonwillow and Laguna seca.

I would prefer Laguna Seca as I know that track the best.

What is the target specs for an e30?
I have ran the same e36M3 at Thill, Laguna, Bwillow all with various setups (street/track tires) multiple times. 2009-2010, the e36M now is getting gutted for weapon use so is not a fair street car comparison.

I can take the e30 out when its ready (probably within a month or 2)

I was intending on tracking it full stock suspension + azenis 615 stock tires + track pads, only modification would be high lock LSD, and 2.7 alpina engine :) should be ~ 190hp crank without much tuning, I think it can do 190rwhp tuned.

what should be a target 190 crank hp stock footwork e30 time on laguna seca? I have never driven an e30 there before

[jstam]

Just curious - where'd you get the alpina motor? And are you doing that swap yourself?

[QUKBMER]

91 bmw 318is
stock m42 out of a 95 318is
BMP chip
K&N stock drop in filter in the stock box with fresh air set up
Car was completely Gutted out/no cage/no a/c
stock clutch
4:10 lsd w/z3 M diff cover
BMP front and rear stress bars
H&R red race springs
Bilstein touring struts and shocks
IE lower control arm bushings front
IE rear upper shock mounts
Eibach prokit adjustable sway bars F&R
Zimmerman F&R cross drilled rotors
Stock exhaust
D-FORCE LTW 15X7 Wheels with 205/50/15 nitto nto1'S
At adams motorsports park time attack best lap 48.3 sec
At calif speedway/speed ventures 2.8 mile road course best lap 2:12 sec at average speed of 80.3 mph. I was at 120 mph through turn 1 and 2.
I have the car no more and i really regret selling it now.

[robgoesvroom]

who is down to go to one of those adams kart track time attack/grip things? I'm from eagle rock area, I think its about an hour away

[Wanganstyle]

Just curious - where'd you get the alpina motor? And are you doing that swap yourself?

Purchased the powerplant with L-jet original H&B ecu with history book locally from personal mechanic of original grey market importing owner, have the full folder and vin from the 327s H&B car. !!! Just got lucky!!!! I think only 12-15 of these complete cars were sold by H&B in 1985.

Market Motor Works in GA sent me a complete Motronic 1.3 conversion kit - complete down to the little sensors and weird brackets and things I don't fully understand yet - I am only very familiar with modern DIS style stuff!!!

The ETA Powerplant will come out, Alpina 2.7 high comp go in+ Motronic 1.3 conversion will all be done
@ JRD Innovations here local (SF BAY)


... With some extra secret sauce additions :)

I will continue to update the performance from BODY structure first, as I feel e30's are Noodles; Chassis strength = lower lap times :)

[carnurd]

BMW 318is(non-lsd)
Engine:
Stock 91 m42(185k) + Chip, Muffler(nothing engine wise)
Suspension:
Spec e30 Suspension, poly bushings, treehouse lollis
Wheels Tires:
225/45/15 Nitto NT01 on TDR 1.3's
BW#13: 2:13

I have since added everything else that's in my sig haha..

Only track i've been to post setup is INDE Motorsports Ranch in Wilcox, I was running 2:12's there.

[robgoesvroom]

post up a thread or PM me when you guys go out to buttonwillow again, I'll join!

nice. i've been wanting to take the e30 to a 1/8 thats about an hour from my house just to see where i am at



thanks but no thanks, last night was exhausting enough and left me broke! ...you should come with us next time we go because its usually a group of about 10 e30's and a mix of other friends and cars

[j0oftheworld]

'89 325is 2200# Track only car
M50TU w. upgrades 195whp
H&R race/Billstiens/Sways/Plates
15x7 TRM's Toyo RA1s 205/50
4.10LSD/ E36 5spd (110mph top speed)

Arizona Motorsports Park ~ 2min dead
Firebird:
-East 1:06.xx
-West 1:07.xx
-Main 1:15.xx

Changed a lot (LSD 3.73, E36 rack, Alignment) plus it's got a lot of changes coming so these plus some So.Cal times will be TBD.. :)

[miki]

1984 e30 323 4door m30 swap 178 rwhp 195 trq weight in at 2284 # on almost empty tank streets of willow cw 1.29.2 ccw 1.28.7
buttonwillow cw13 2.09. auto club speedway roval 2.00 willow springs big track 1.38
times are on h&r sport springs and bilstien sport shocks , now i got some 450/700 coil overs and camber plates so i hope for some better times :)

[JJ1]

1984 e30 323 4door m30 swap 178 rwhp 195 trq weight in at 2284 # on almost empty tank streets of willow cw 1.29.2 ccw 1.28.7
buttonwillow cw13 2.09. auto club speedway roval 2.00 willow springs big track 1.38
times are on h&r sport springs and bilstien sport shocks , now i got some 450/700 coil overs and camber plates so i hope for some better times :)

Good times. What tires?

[Wanganstyle]

Good times. What tires?

yes, I was going to ask also. R compounds?

m30 makes it SCOOT!
have you ran Laguna with the e30m30?

what does a prepped non caged 200rwhp e30 run at Laguna with dot-R's ?

[miki]

No laguna seca yet. All the times are on 225/45/15 r888 except big willow that was on 205/45/15 nt01. I signed up for streets on 18th of this month and I hope to shave a couple of seconds with that new set up :)

[SimonH]

Spec E30 Lap Records

http://spece30.com/spece30-records-mainmenu-70

[JRKOUPE]

Spec E30 Lap Records

http://spece30.com/spece30-records-mainmenu-70

I was looking for such a post...thanks...



wow , some very fast m20 drivers....!

[tonywonder]

just got back from streets of willow. ran the course CW.

my car is a 91 318is.
front H&R sport springs (installed by PO)
Mishimoto e36 Radiator
and phenolic intake spacer kit.
everything else is stock.
195/65/14 Kuhmos (street tires) non of that Rcomp silliness.

first time at SOW and second time on a track. this is the only track ive had timing for.

there were 5 runs first run was a lead follow (cuz ams a noob)
i skipped the last run since i felt my tires were pretty jacked. and i needed to get home.

1st run best time 1:57.339 (i consistently had 2 minute laps.)
2nd run best time 1:53.675
3rd run best time 1:51.131 (best time for the day)

i definitely think i couldve knocked it down to 1:50 but this is what i could do with my stock setup. hopefully will have my car setup proper next track day. i also didnt shed any weight im pretty sure that wouldve helped a bit. rear seat with headrests and spare tire are heavy