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    #16
    Originally posted by Skafrog
    so wait. You bought an eta for a DD so you could have a "track rat", and then you are afraid of putting it in the wall?
    Robert, sometimes you dont make a whole lot of sense. :D
    nah, fuck that eta. it smells funny. and vibrates. i was under the car and sprayed some PB blaster on the rusted to fuck bolts that were just the beginning of the driveshaft swap and was like....fuck this. my $400 car will just vibrate. and then I got some sleep before my Auto-X.


    I can have fun with red/pinkie, then if something goes wrong, I have the ugly, smelly, vibrating POS to get to work/school, or tackle the snow.

    moral of story: my eta smells and will not be a daily driver, just a backup. but i almost had ulcers fearing something would break on my car and I'd be fucked during the weekends. and like 2 weeks before the event, every noise i heard driving made me wonder if it was going to be alright. And after it's through, I'm glad I made it without breaking my car (except that one time the collar nut come off)

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      #17
      The information is really helpful guys, thanks. On the topic of HPDE's are there any tracks or organizations that organize these around southern california? Also what organizations would I need to get my liscenses with and how are the tests like?
      '87 alpine white 325is

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        #18
        bmwcca feels sometimes it's just too recreational. nasa is a little more goal-focused. getting to be a better driver and therefore faster.

        not as likely to see a 45yo wife crusing in her X3 for fun.....



        California- Southern Region

        * September 10-11, Willow Springs Raceway, Rosemond, CA
        * October 08-09, Buttonwillow Raceway, Buttonwillow, CA
        * November 12-13, Buttonwillow Raceway, Buttonwillow, CA

        Socal NASA site: http://www.nasaproracing.com/socal/index.html

        Read this too: http://www.nasaproracing.com/hpde/index.html
        Drive your car on America's most famous road courses!
        You have always wanted to know what "she could do", but you know the streets and highways are not the place. NASA gives you and your car an easy, safe, and affordable way to get on the track! No speed limits, no pedestrians, but best of all-no tickets. The NASA HPDE provide you with an experienced racer to help guide you through the event, one on one, as you learn how to handle your car at the limit. You set your own goals and go as fast as you feel comfortable going. You can progress as far as you want, even get a competition license.

        How?
        Basically, all you need is a safe car and a helmet.The car does not have to be fancy or fast. Students bring everything from a Hyundai to a Ferrari. Read the requirements for the other miscellaneous items required.

        Who?
        Anyone who is a member of NASA (or a NASA sanctioned car club, such as INEX) may participate. Minimum age is 18 (16 with parental consent). Many different types of people enter our events. The number of women who are taking our courses has steadily increased and most are very eager to enhance their driving skills. A lot of husbands and wives also team up and use only one car which makes it a little bit more convenient. There are many teenagers and young adults who receive a school entry compliments of their parents who want to teach their kids to be safer drivers.

        Accidents:
        Body damage to cars very rarely occurs, however you are encouraged to check with your insurance company regarding coverage. Most insurance companies cover damages to your car during the school (HPDE) portion of the event. Be careful if they tell that it is not covered. Agents have been wrong before. Ask them for a list of "exclusions" in YOUR policy and consult an expert.

        Full Course:
        The student participants are separated according to their experience level into four basic groups: One, Two, Three, and Four. There are no speed limits in any of the groups, and the novice drivers are assigned instructors for safety reasons. personal attention is paid to every student.

        Run Group Explanation:

        Group one (1)
        This is where you begin. This is one on one guidance from experienced racers, as you learn to control your car and yourself. Your mentor will provide you with guidance as you learn to drive at the limit. You will address how to approach a turn, the fast way around it, what gear should you be in, how to brake, and how to exit. The session generally includes a lead-follow session. Passing is very limited in the Group 1 Sessions.

        Group two (2)
        Your mentor has determined you can drive on your own and with less supervision. You apply what you learned in the group 1 sessions. The pace is faster, and the passing rules are more relaxed.

        Group three (3)
        You have progressed to the world of high performance driving. The passing rules in group 3 are not as strict. You must learn to share the track at high speeds with others.

        Group four (4)
        Congratulations! You have made it, no passing restriction except those of good judgment and rules of the road etiquette. You and your peers are now experiencing the joys of doing it right in a safe environment! You can now enjoy high performance driving at its finest. Those that wish to can petition to apply for a competition license.

        Time Trial
        Time Trial Program- Compete for fastest time agaist other cars in your class. More information can be found here.

        Requirements:

        * Membership in NASA or a NASA sanctioned club
        * Any car in safe operating condition (from Ferrari to Hyundai)
        * Mufflers. Different tracks have different sound policies
        * Roll bars in convertible autos
        * Seat belts in good working order
        * State driver's license
        * Long sleeve shirt and pants (cotton is great)
        * A helmet
        * Knowledge of the Club Codes and Regulations
        * At least 18 years of age (16 w/parental consent)
        and: http://www.nasaproracing.com/hpde/firstday.html http://www.nasaproracing.com/hpde/preparing.html http://www.nasaproracing.com/hpde/theline.html
        Some people believe that an occasional spin or crash is essential to learning to drive quickly. This is not true. A spin or crash is the result of an extreme case of exceeding the limits of the car and driver. Loosing control of the car is a hazard to the car involved as well as […]


        http://www.nasaproracing.com/hpde/inslow.html

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