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    #16
    I was in #30 though
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      #17
      Not sure I was in Spain and missed the race. I am a bit less than thrilled with my team right now. Debating on splitting was with them.

      Fidhel tell me about your incident with us please.
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        #18
        Originally posted by M-technik-3 View Post
        Guys from Over Engineered Racing with WD-39 care to to comment? My driver said you guys just cut across us leaving no choice to either wail the Rolls or getting the front end tore off.
        If you give me an idea of the time I can get the detail on what was going on in our driver's head.

        As I explained on the LeMons forum, I had no knowledge that we had taken anyone out of the event, had we known we would have come to help get you back on the track in any way we could (in addition to apologizing profusely).

        You guys have always been good to us and I can assure you it wasn't intentional in any way.

        Honestly I felt Saturday was a shitshow with a combo of highly unpredictable cars, drivers that took lines without looking (perhaps this was us?) and uber aggressive drivers that were trying to win the race in 25 laps.
        #30 Overengineer'd Racing - Wilton, NH
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          #19
          It happened Sunday about 1pm range. We had just gotten back on track after being off for 1:45 for a radiator replacement... They took a rock through the radiator and just had gotten back on track.

          That I think was my team on Saturday. They took 4 black flags and were done about 3ish.

          Like I said I was not made aware that we punted the E30 off the track for that I am sorry. Getting updates were few and far between. My concern was the engine and drive train after doing yet again a 3 engine transplant in the car. Wishing I kept the car a 4 banger but I know that would have been blown up in just a matter of time.
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            #20
            Again we are sorry that we cut your day short. Can you find out if this incident was under yellow? The only contact that I know of when this driver was out was a rear ender when he got checked up under yellow. He came in preemptively for the black flag after that but one wasn't called in for him, just the car that hit him according to the lady with the laptop. I didn't find out who because it seemed minor (no new damage to our car).

            In any case, I will ask what happened and get back to you. While we are trying to be competitive I don't want us to be a team that does so at others expense so I appreciate you letting me know.

            Also, I see the topic on the LeMons forum and the posting in another topic on the LeMons forum and the posting here all regarding this, are there any others I haven't found? I just don't want it to seem like I was ignoring your concerns in those threads.
            #30 Overengineer'd Racing - Wilton, NH
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              #21
              Only been posting on two sites so no worries. I just got back from a 15 day trip and pretty tired and I am going right back out.

              I think I might be campaigning my own team next year as I am not like our current way things are running. We have two arrive and drives and seem me and another driver are paying far more than arrives and drives. Heck I didn't even get to drive this race.

              There are two sides to every story and I'm seeing the same pattern forming here. Think it actually might have been my driver honestly now. He said it wasn't but...
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                #22
                I mistyped above, I meant to say "tried to push me off into the bowl" but I was on my phone and was being sloppy. I saw lots of shitty driving from the gray car on both days but the incident I'm referring to was on sunday I believe. We came out of 2 side by side and drag raced to 3. The E36 made it to 3 half a car length ahead of me so I stayed inside a out-braked your driver, taking the inside. I was ahead through the first half three but traffic held me up as soon as we started up the hill. The driver of the E36 checked up and kept me behind the slow car I had come up on going up the hill. He then started swerving at me violently trying to force me off into the flag stand at the top of the hill.

                I saw lots of bad behavior out there all weekend but that was staggeringly aggressive and uncalled for, especially from a team I thought we were friends with. I seriously considered holding my ground and taking the hit and the black flag just to get such a shitty driver off the track but I knew I was better served keeping my cool and just driving away.

                I have to say, I don't appreciate this kind of callout in a public forum, especially when you weren't there to see how immaturely your drivers behaved. I don't think anyone deserves to get hit and I hate seeing a car taken out like that but based on the behavior I saw I'm not surprised they were a target. I know no one on my team would have targeted them but there were other teams out for blood.

                The driver in the WD-39 car at the time we allegedly hit you is our most experienced and most conscientious driver who only had one incident with the Elmo's Revenge car which I also had my fair share of close encounters with. They were one of those teams that was determined to make everyone else as slow as they were, which is what your team was leaning towards a little I guess... I suggest you have a long serious talk with your team about their accusations...
                Last edited by Fidhle007; 10-28-2013, 09:15 PM.
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                  #23
                  I guess posting in an open forum would be easier than calling you at work correct.

                  That being said it's not my team, I just seem to do the majority of all the work on the car and try to push the team in a racing direction and organization mind set.

                  One of my drivers is no longer with us he lives in Germany and the Team Captain pulled a switchero sticking his wife in as a driver causing some strife in the team because of $$.

                  I will be voicing your view of interaction with them, I don't race that way. It's an endurance race not a circle track sprint race. POS car or not I want to keep the car together for as long as possible.

                  According to Judge Phil 600 black flags were issued that's a staggering amount. With us getting 4!! on Saturday, If you read my post previous to yours I mentioned that it might have be most likely my driver's fault he has been in the car for the three other contact issues so the trend is there but he claims denial. The bad is he is basically an arrive and drive. I also can't shit can him.

                  Your also more than welcome to call me and talk about it vs doing it this way.
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                    #24
                    As promised here is my driver's side of the story that was sent to me:

                    "There was a contact with a gray-ish car when I was next to the Rolls and we had a double yellow at top of the hill before the bowl. I got tapped in the rear. That's when I came in without a black flag and was sent back out. Complaints? Didn't think it was that particular car but if it was it was particularly bone move as I was leaving the outside line open."

                    I am personally not interested in placing blame or critiquing another team's driving, I just wanted to return the information you requested. As with most LeMons incidents I would expect the average of each driver's account to be the true story.

                    I do like to get feedback on how out team is performing on the track, good or bad. You are welcome to PM here anytime regarding that.
                    #30 Overengineer'd Racing - Wilton, NH
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                      #25
                      Appreciate that, Like I said there are two sides to the story.
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                        #26
                        Originally posted by M-technik-3 View Post
                        Appreciate that, Like I said there are two sides to the story.
                        You need to clean your inbox, you are not allowed to receive any more PMs, FYI. I need to speak with you. Sorry for posting here but its my only means of reaching out to you.
                        Thanks

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                          #27
                          So let me get this straight, you hit us (allegedly) under yellow from behind? And this is OUR FAULT???? Based on the shitty f*cking driving I saw from the morons on your team previously I wouldn't be surprised if they did something so stupid but for you to claim that "we took you out" is absurd! I'd appreciate an apology for calling us out and an apology on behalf of your team for their untoward behavior.
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                          '04 X5 Daily/Tow Vehicle

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                          http://www.myspace.com/brendanfiddle


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                            #28
                            Hey, that's us!

                            Originally posted by M-technik-3 View Post


                            Another local e30 team. great theme cheatee cheatee bang bang
                            Just noticed this thread and saw this picture. It was our first race and we had a great time. Hopefully we drove "ok". Apologies to anyone we might've wronged. We had 2 BF's all weekend. One definitely our fault (punted Nemo in 3). The other was with one of the yellow Peugot's. The other driver apologized for not seeing us, but we still sat for 30 minutes... Great fun racing with all of you.

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