Removing front grilles at track?

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  • Stu Mc
    R3V Elite
    • Oct 2003
    • 4083

    #1

    Removing front grilles at track?

    I'm thinking:

    +:
    cooling (radiator)
    more air to air-filter

    -:
    more chance of debris/track rubber getting in engine bay


    aerodynamics? not concerned


    Any ideas?
    Racers?
  • DanGillan
    R3V Elite
    • Mar 2004
    • 4061

    #2
    on the BPG racecars we actually ran mesh attached behind the grills to stop road debris, and after a race, they would need to be cleaned out of tons of tire and road debris. i wouldnt just straight up run no grills. but i can see where you're going.
    Dan

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    • Dave
      E30 RAT
      • Nov 2003
      • 11675

      #3
      Chickenwire FTW!!!!

      He was FUH RAZE the whole time!!!
      Current Cars
      2014 M235i
      2009 R56 Cooper S
      1998 M3
      1997 M3

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      • DanGillan
        R3V Elite
        • Mar 2004
        • 4061

        #4
        not my car fool. the real racecars.
        Dan

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        • Dave
          E30 RAT
          • Nov 2003
          • 11675

          #5
          Originally posted by DanGillan
          not my car fool. the real racecars.
          No, Danny, I was referring to Chicken Wire boy.
          Current Cars
          2014 M235i
          2009 R56 Cooper S
          1998 M3
          1997 M3

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          • e30Matt
            R3V Elite
            • Dec 2003
            • 5077

            #6
            If anything, if you wanted more flow I'd dig up an extra set of US grilles and just dremel out all the plastic between the "fins." That way you get more airflow but still have protection from big chunks of rubber and track debris.

            :shrug:

            "See, we're adding a little something to this month's sales contest. As you all know, first prize is a Cadillac Eldorado. Anyone wanna see second prize? Second prize is a set of steak knives. Third prize is you're fired."

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            • Dave
              E30 RAT
              • Nov 2003
              • 11675

              #7
              Stu,

              These have larger openings - they'd let more air in. Of course, they are ugly as sin.

              Current Cars
              2014 M235i
              2009 R56 Cooper S
              1998 M3
              1997 M3

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              • Skafrog
                E30 Mastermind
                • Oct 2003
                • 1730

                #8
                There is no need to do that.
                You will be just fine with stock grills. You can always take out the high beam and duct air to the MAF and alternator if you feel like it, and the harmonic damper if you are feeling frisky.
                Most mod cars have the side grills blocked FYI.

                NASA MidSouth TT Director / GTS2 #018
                Mods: Coastal PS Fluid, 10w40 Oil
                Future Mods: Bosch Micro-Edge Wiper Blades, Painter's Tape, Spark Plugs, Freezer for Nutty Buddys, Adam Nitti CD's

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                • BimmerToad
                  E30 Mastermind
                  • Sep 2004
                  • 1537

                  #9
                  Keep the grills on. The grills are designed to collect and move air through the radiator. If you want more cooling, you might be better off blocking sections of the grill off which don't lead to the radiator, which will speed up the air flowing through the radiator, removing more heat. (look at late GrpA M3s, they have plexiglass covering the grill and light assembly)

                  Think of the grills as a funnel...

                  or you can take them off and make the car look like a demo-derby junkyard special! :D
                  San Diego BMW repair -> Jake @ www.littlecarshop.com Great guy :up:

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                  • Stu Mc
                    R3V Elite
                    • Oct 2003
                    • 4083

                    #10
                    Thank you Toad and Skafrog !

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                    • Rigmaster
                      No R3VLimiter
                      • Jul 2004
                      • 3464

                      #11
                      Stu,

                      you getting ready for a track weekend??

                      I remember you (I think) and Alex (for sure) years ago at Rockingham raising hell in the pits at BMWCCA driver's school when your dad was instructing.


                      Bret.

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                      • Stu Mc
                        R3V Elite
                        • Oct 2003
                        • 4083

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Rigmaster
                        Stu,

                        you getting ready for a track weekend??

                        I remember you (I think) and Alex (for sure) years ago at Rockingham raising hell in the pits at BMWCCA driver's school when your dad was instructing.


                        Bret.
                        Hey Bret,
                        Yes, I have fond memories of going to the track with him.
                        Unfortunately he stopped instructing when I was around 15
                        (after a nasty backwards-into-the-wall coming out of 11 at Rd. Atlanda in a students M3).
                        Raising hell in the pits? Not us. :D

                        Going back for the first time this season,
                        assuming my tires and driveshaft get here next week!!

                        BTW, thanks for the trunklid Bret.

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                        • Bimmerfanatik
                          Banned
                          • May 2004
                          • 5349

                          #13
                          Originally posted by DaveCN
                          Stu,

                          These have larger openings - they'd let more air in. Of course, they are ugly as sin.


                          STOP POSTING THESE HORRIFIC PICTURES OF MY CAR

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                          • Dave
                            E30 RAT
                            • Nov 2003
                            • 11675

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Bimmerfanatik
                            STOP POSTING THESE HORRIFIC PICTURES OF MY CAR
                            WASH ME!!!!!

                            Current Cars
                            2014 M235i
                            2009 R56 Cooper S
                            1998 M3
                            1997 M3

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                            • Bimmerfanatik
                              Banned
                              • May 2004
                              • 5349

                              #15
                              you and i are in a fight

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