pad suggestions for a first time HPDE?

[nrubenstein]

Not gonna say that hp+ are a track pad but at summit point last weekend the ls1 swapped e30 my buddy was running did surprisingly well with stock brakes with hp+ pads. 135+ on the straight down to ~55 for the turn braking at the 450 mark. The pads never lost grip but did need increased pedal effort once they got hot and they were seeing temps well a over 750f which is what the brakes were when we checked them once it pulled back to the paddock. Not ideal as I'm pretty sure it cooked all the grease out of the wheel bearings, but they worked the whole time and didn't disappear as I feared they might.

The drive gear se30 cars were doing just fine brake wise with stock everything with hawk blues even without ducts.

It sounds like your buddy was staying just inside the HP+ temperature range. The problem is that when you exceed it, they go away. You suddenly have no brakes.

Given how expensive the HP+ is, there is NO reason to run them on track. Keep them on the street or cone packing where they belong.

(Also, 135ish with an LS1 means that your buddy wasn't pushing hard. That's S50US territory.)

[ajhostetter]

This is interesting. I have an S52 swapped E30 with stock brakes. The HP+ have been awesome at PIR, but I did have a weird thing off the back straight last track day where I suddenly felt like the brakes weren't there. They came back fast, but still...unsettling. I ran CoolCarbon last year, but they overheated once at the track and from there on out were shit in all circumstances. Never again. I may try the Carbotech.

[Bimmerman325i]

Yup, you're describing the HP+ pads pushed outside their temp range.

[SmokeE30]

It sounds like your buddy was staying just inside the HP+ temperature range. The problem is that when you exceed it, they go away. You suddenly have no brakes.

Given how expensive the HP+ is, there is NO reason to run them on track. Keep them on the street or cone packing where they belong.

(Also, 135ish with an LS1 means that your buddy wasn't pushing hard. That's S50US territory.)

It's $55 drift tire limited the m20 car our friends were runing was 135-140 because it could enter the straight so much faster.