Track guys: rear SB in or out?

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  • CorvallisBMW
    Long Schlong Longhammer
    • Feb 2005
    • 13039

    #1

    Track guys: rear SB in or out?

    I've heard of some E30 drivers ditching their rear sway bars during track day to help with handling and getting the power down. I'm curious, what kind of improvements do you see? Is it really better than just leaving the bar in? I'm hoping to here some of the pros and cons before I take off to PIR this weekend.
  • JRKOUPE
    No R3VLimiter
    • Dec 2004
    • 3159

    #2
    rr sb

    .many do it.........i dont.


    Itll help a twitchy rear and reduce your oversteer. W/ a HR race and koni SA set up..and new bushings all round..Im good w/ it.
    I love sitting down and just driving!

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    • BM5W
      Member
      • May 2005
      • 84

      #3
      CorvallisBMW-
      You doing the TeamContinental day this weekend? If so, I'll see you there! My name is Mark, I'll be in the bronze 325is.

      As far as the rear SB goes: It varies a lot with the car setup and bushing condition. I'd experiment, just disconnect one of the rear links for a session.

      PS: The weather is looking good for Saturday!

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      • joshh
        R3V OG
        • Aug 2004
        • 6195

        #4
        What's going on at PIR this weekend??

        Just disconnect one endlink of the bar. If you don't like it put it back on at the next break. But also relise guys that do this don't usually just remove the rear bar. They adjust other things as well on the car to companste for the lack of a rear bar.
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        • matt
          No R3VLimiter
          • Oct 2003
          • 3731

          #5
          Originally posted by joshh
          What's going on at PIR this weekend??

          Just disconnect one endlink of the bar. If you don't like it put it back on at the next break. But also relise guys that do this don't usually just remove the rear bar. They adjust other things as well on the car to companste for the lack of a rear bar.
          Yep. I wouldn't remove it with any off the shelf springs for the e30.

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          • BM5W
            Member
            • May 2005
            • 84

            #6
            Originally posted by joshh
            What's going on at PIR this weekend??
            Team Continental Drivers education day. By far the best track day I have done. You have a full time instructor. I bet you could still sign up. Ground school is Friday night. Do a google search for "team continental" and you will find the site. I'd be great to get some more BMWs out there!

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            • joshh
              R3V OG
              • Aug 2004
              • 6195

              #7
              Originally posted by BM5W
              Team Continental Drivers education day. By far the best track day I have done. You have a full time instructor. I bet you could still sign up. Ground school is Friday night. Do a google search for "team continental" and you will find the site. I'd be great to get some more BMWs out there!
              Yeah, I've definately heard of them. I've been meaning to do one of their days but it just seems every time is a bad time. I can't make it this weekend either. Have fun.
              Your signature picture has been removed since it contained the Photobucket "upgrade your account" image.

              "I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents. Charity is no part of the legislative duty of the [federal] government." ~ James Madison

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              • Keith M
                R3VLimited
                • Nov 2006
                • 2338

                #8
                I'll be at PR for the instructor clinic so I'm missing this one.
                Mark and Josh - online registration is open for the 3 ACA days at PIR. I've signed up for all 3.:)
                Also note that is will be a short season this year due to the PIR re-paving project starting in September.

                Keith

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                • racingwoody
                  E30 Addict
                  • Jun 2006
                  • 438

                  #9
                  I race an E30 with NASA OH/IN region and have Ground Control coil over kit with Koni Adjustable shocks. I have poly throughout the entire car and I keep my stock front and rear sway bars in with poly bushings. I like the feel of a tight car that I know what it is going to do, maybe a little on the conservative side. I agree with a stock set up (springs and shocks and old rubber bushings) you may want to keep sway bar in. Try it detached for a session, but remember to go out knowing your car WILL handle different.
                  Kevin Gibson
                  90 325is

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                  • JRKOUPE
                    No R3VLimiter
                    • Dec 2004
                    • 3159

                    #10
                    Originally posted by racingwoody
                    I race an E30 with NASA OH/IN region and have Ground Control coil over kit with Koni Adjustable shocks. I have poly throughout the entire car and I keep my stock front and rear sway bars in with poly bushings. I like the feel of a tight car that I know what it is going to do, maybe a little on the conservative side. I agree with a stock set up (springs and shocks and old rubber bushings) you may want to keep sway bar in. Try it detached for a session, but remember to go out knowing your car WILL handle different.



                    ...where can I source the poly bushings to fit our stock sway bars?..tia!
                    I love sitting down and just driving!

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                    • rs4pro3
                      R3V Elite
                      • Oct 2003
                      • 5808

                      #11
                      BMP and flying brick both carry them.
                      85 325e 2.7 ITB'd stroker

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                      • JRKOUPE
                        No R3VLimiter
                        • Dec 2004
                        • 3159

                        #12
                        Originally posted by rs4pro3
                        BMP and flying brick both carry them.

                        thnx!!!!
                        I love sitting down and just driving!

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                        • Scott///M
                          Advanced Member
                          • Feb 2006
                          • 135

                          #13
                          I've only heard of the rear sway bar being disconnected to improve handling in the rain or if there's a busted end link.

                          Why don't you try it both ways and see which way you prefer? Should be something easy to do in the paddock.

                          Scott///M | 1988 325is | 2004 Z71 Suburban | 2003 325i

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