For those that track..do you change lca's

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  • JRKOUPE
    No R3VLimiter
    • Dec 2004
    • 3159

    #1

    For those that track..do you change lca's

    every 2 yrs or so.......or?. Many Hardcore racers do every 2 yrs .
    I love sitting down and just driving!
  • Charlie
    kid tested, administrator approved
    • Oct 2003
    • 6686

    #2
    If you've got the Lemforders, I'd just keep an eye on them with the bushings and such. 3-4 years would probably be my limit, as they're not expensive, and swapping them out frequently would make them less of a PITA to remove. Obviously if you like to curbhop and such, then 2 year interval would be smart. This is with the steel arms - no clue on the alus.

    -Charlie
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    '89 324d, '76 02, '98 318ti, '03 Z4, '07 MCS, '07 F800s - Bonafide BMW elitist prick.
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    • matt
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      • Oct 2003
      • 3731

      #3
      I'll let mine go for 2 or 3 years. I don't do many events and almost no street driving.

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      • blunttech
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        • Jul 2004
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        #4
        i wouldnt swap steel ones but yes to the aluminum. i have aluminums and they are overdue
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        • JRKOUPE
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          • Dec 2004
          • 3159

          #5
          lca

          Makes sense fellas.........I agree.


          Blunt..."you wouldn't swap steel ones"....explain?
          I love sitting down and just driving!

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          • blunttech
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            • Jul 2004
            • 12850

            #6
            Originally posted by JoelRKaplan
            Makes sense fellas.........I agree.


            Blunt..."you wouldn't swap steel ones"....explain?
            i just meant id feel more comfortable running the steel ones longer than the aluminums
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            • JRKOUPE
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              • Dec 2004
              • 3159

              #7
              Originally posted by blunt
              i just meant id feel more comfortable running the steel ones longer than the aluminums


              got it
              I love sitting down and just driving!

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              • ctbimmer
                Noobie
                • May 2007
                • 6

                #8
                I have always heard (and followed the advice) that a tracked E30 should have the control arms replaced every 2 years or so. They aren't that expensive nor hard to change, and a broken one at wrong place/time can really ruin your day and more.

                This advice was in regard to steel arms and 325s. I can't comment on the aluminum M3 parts.
                Chuck Taylor
                NASA-SE SpecE30 Racer #218

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                • cwsqbm
                  Member
                  • Sep 2006
                  • 54

                  #9
                  My three year old E46 has 22k miles and 7 weekend of tracking. It needs new front arms, although I do drive by the braile method - if you can't feel the curb, you're not using the whole track :) Talking with our tech inspectors, its normal for all tracked BMWs. I'll be putting new arms under my E30 too when I put the new suspension in over the winter.

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                  • BrandC
                    E30 Addict
                    • Jul 2006
                    • 444

                    #10
                    Can somebody explain to me why BMW control arms need to be changed at all? I thought control arms were the longest lasting part on the suspension, sans bushings.


                    -Brandon

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                    • JRKOUPE
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                      • Dec 2004
                      • 3159

                      #11
                      [QUOTE=BrandC;830363]Can somebody explain to me why BMW control arms need to be changed at all? I thought control arms were the longest lasting part on the suspension, sans bushings.[/QUOTE




                      AT ALL?


                      metal fatigue, stress, //////// blah blah blah

                      for a street car...its not a big issue.
                      I love sitting down and just driving!

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                      • Farbin Kaiber
                        Lil' Puppet
                        • Jul 2007
                        • 29502

                        #12
                        Originally posted by BrandC
                        Can somebody explain to me why BMW control arms need to be changed at all? I thought control arms were the longest lasting part on the suspension, sans bushings.

                        Non-servicable ball joints... ???

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                        • Stu Mc
                          R3V Elite
                          • Oct 2003
                          • 4083

                          #13
                          The ball-joints wear out which will become noticeable on rough roads. My arms are 3-4years old, and immediately after my last track event the front end began to clunk and feel sightly disconnected. It's good to replace the arms and tie-rods + ends every few years, 2 years sounds about right if you're aggressive on-track.

                          From what I've heard from racers/vendors, the ball joints are stronger on the aluminum control arms. They may have more metal fatigue in the arm itself but the balljoints are the real wear item. I don't have any conclusive data to confirm this--I guess you'd have to look at the joints themselves

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                          • 02stu
                            E30 Modder
                            • Jan 2005
                            • 872

                            #14
                            I can't see the metal failing, if you don't have a cage I would bet on the the body/ shock towers failing before the control arms go.

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                            • matt
                              No R3VLimiter
                              • Oct 2003
                              • 3731

                              #15
                              Originally posted by 02stu
                              I can't see the metal failing, if you don't have a cage I would bet on the the body/ shock towers failing before the control arms go.
                              Ball joints fail relatively commonly. I have never seen a broken control arm, but I'm sure that's happened also.

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