Ice Racing set-up and driving tips?

[Fidhle007]

Nothing yet, they've been lacking in favorable conditions so far but it looks like there's a plan in place to run this weekend...

[kishg]

fidhle, how was it? pics? video?

[Fidhle007]

here's a vid from a couple of years ago. it was a 5 series w/ 195 tires and 4 passengers that dominated that day. basic physics, weight is your friend.

cheers, jason

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpSURX-cSIw

That's a great vid, I stumbled on it a few years ago and have been itching to ice race ever since! I think I still have it on my hard drive somewhere too...

EDIT: Here's my contribution to the winter wonderland video collection: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SR5TNLXXQOc

If I get any good footage next weekend I'll post it up for sure!

[Fidhle007]

neat vid on what hardcore ice racing is like...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDrjP94bJIY

That's awesome, thanks!

[Jason89i]

here's a vid from a couple of years ago. it was a 5 series w/ 195 tires and 4 passengers that dominated that day. basic physics, weight is your friend.

cheers, jason

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpSURX-cSIw

[silversleeper]

neat vid on what hardcore ice racing is like...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDrjP94bJIY

[Fidhle007]

Forget about negative camber, your tires won't generate enough lateral force for the body to roll. Zero camber will keep the tread flat on the ice at 0.001 lateral G's.

That's what I was thinking too but my experiences with my current setup have been quite positive. Today was very slick and the steering response seems way better with the added camber...

[joelmahoney]

Forget about negative camber, your tires won't generate enough lateral force for the body to roll. Zero camber will keep the tread flat on the ice at 0.001 lateral G's.

[gearheadE30]

oh, I thought you were just snow drifting or whatever. In that case, that was a pretty decent run or being on real ice.

[nando]

Iceracing is actually pretty fun at lower speeds (faster than that vid, though), and it really teaches how to control the car. Which is probably why I sucked so badly the first time I did it. Unfortunately, I've only done it once since, and I still suck ;)

I really couldn't have gone much faster - seriously. I've driven on lots of slick surfaces, but nothing like that. it rained overnight - then froze quickly, and snowed and rained on top. driving on plain old snow is like a dry sunny day in comparison. it's not like I didn't have decent snow tires on or anything either.

[gearheadE30]

Iceracing is actually pretty fun at lower speeds (faster than that vid, though), and it really teaches how to control the car. Which is probably why I sucked so badly the first time I did it. Unfortunately, I've only done it once since, and I still suck ;)

[Fidhle007]

take it as a learning experience - you're not moving very fast, so you have lots of time to play with steering and throttle inputs. and don't bother with your brakes, you'll just keep sliding in the direction you were moving when you hit them. lol.

So it IS like my daily commute! :D

[nando]

take it as a learning experience - you're not moving very fast, so you have lots of time to play with steering and throttle inputs. and don't bother with your brakes, you'll just keep sliding in the direction you were moving when you hit them. lol.

[Fidhle007]

I imagine there's a lot of waiting for the car to respond to your inputs, and hoping it will before you hit the cone...

[kishg]

don't even worry about it - it's not going to matter very much what you drive, or even what tires you have as long as they are snows. I recently went to an ice "race" with my blizzaks on, and it was so slick nobody was really moving very fast (not even the '08 wrx on snows).

the e30 that showed up on RS2s was pretty hilarious to watch though. :p

here's a really boring video of it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpX769yGwwQ

I really could have pushed harder, but I was fighting my urge to keep the car under control.. how often do you get to legally drive on an skid pad covered in 1" of ice?

hmm looks more boring than i thought. im sure it's more engaging in real life..