Running aux fan only...what temperature switch to use?

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  • MacBudd541
    E30 Enthusiast
    • Apr 2006
    • 1042

    #16
    I have the AC removed from my car but pushing the button bumps the idle up. i push it sometimes when im warming the car up, or bumping the tunes.
    1989 325i Alpine s52 coupe
    2003 540i M-Sport 6 speed
    2003 X5 3.0

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    • bmwpower
      E30 Mastermind
      • Jul 2007
      • 1556

      #17
      Ok...here's the diagram. I'm thinking if I cut the line marked, the ECU will not know of the switch being pressed and therefore will not up the idle.
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      Last edited by bmwpower; 02-01-2009, 11:22 PM.
      89 325is track project / 05 x5 / 99 M3
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      • clavinZERO
        Hella sick E30
        • Mar 2004
        • 2027

        #18
        That's bizarre, because my 90 325is with broken A/C system DOES NOT idle bump when I hit the A/C button. When the system WAS intact, the idle DID bump.

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        • bmwpower
          E30 Mastermind
          • Jul 2007
          • 1556

          #19
          Originally posted by clavinZERO
          That's bizarre, because my 90 325is with broken A/C system DOES NOT idle bump when I hit the A/C button. When the system WAS intact, the idle DID bump.
          Any idea what is "broken"?
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          • hoyabmw
            Wrencher
            • Dec 2006
            • 207

            #20
            My '90 autox car has no A/C, no mechanical fan, aftermarket electric fan wired into the A/C switch. It bumps the idle when I turn it on, but that's it. No other effects. Don't worry about that.

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            • Kerrath
              E30 Addict
              • Jun 2008
              • 577

              #21
              There are a lot of different ECUs for i engines. If some people bump and some people don't bump, isn't it plausible that some of the ECUs trigger an increase in engine rpm and some don't? Just a thought. If I were you, I'd grab a couple different ones or borrow and try them on your engine.

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              • clavinZERO
                Hella sick E30
                • Mar 2004
                • 2027

                #22
                Originally posted by bmwpower
                Any idea what is "broken"?

                one of my lines blew, so the compressor never engages when I hit the button, but the aux fan does come on with NO idle bump. convenient for now since I am running no mechanical fan.

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                Regarding the lower 80/88 aux fan switch, you want:

                80/88 degree (from E36 and/or M42 motor apparently, same connector as late model E30): 61 31 8 361 787
                Last edited by clavinZERO; 01-13-2010, 02:30 PM.

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                • clavinZERO
                  Hella sick E30
                  • Mar 2004
                  • 2027

                  #23
                  EDIT: tested my A/C button today and it does in fact bump my idle even though the compressor is not being engaged... I wonder why I never noticed this before and thought that it did not do that anymore.

                  So forget what I said earlier about no idle bump, but that part number is for the aux fan switch is still good :P

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                  • pedal2metal
                    Member
                    • Jun 2007
                    • 93

                    #24
                    Just take two of the 3 wires (can't remember what colors-check you wiring diagram) from the temp switch and and scotch-lock 2 seperate wires and run them to a switch. This effectively acts like the temp switch when it activates the fan relay and doesn't bump the idle. I have mine setup to activate the high speed fan relay. You can then turn the fan on whenever you want without affecting the idle and you can turn the fan on manually if the temp switch fails.

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                    • clavinZERO
                      Hella sick E30
                      • Mar 2004
                      • 2027

                      #25
                      Originally posted by pedal2metal
                      just take two of the 3 wires (can't remember what colors-check you wiring diagram) from the temp switch and and scotch-lock 2 seperate wires and run them to a switch. This effectively acts like the temp switch when it activates the fan relay and doesn't bump the idle. I have mine setup to activate the high speed fan relay. You can then turn the fan on whenever you want without affecting the idle and you can turn the fan on manually if the temp switch fails.
                      +1

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                      • Skafrog
                        E30 Mastermind
                        • Oct 2003
                        • 1730

                        #26
                        Originally posted by bmwpower
                        The only worry I have about doing that is the side effects of having the A/C switch on....idle bump and whatever else goes along electronically with having the A/C on.

                        Unless I just somehow rewire the switch to only turn the fan on and remove the link to the ECU for the idle bump...I need to look at the diagram again...
                        Who the hell cares about an idle bump? The fan should be off when you are running, and on when you are in the pits.

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                        • 1990m3
                          E30 Enthusiast
                          • Feb 2004
                          • 1180

                          #27
                          Originally posted by clavinZERO
                          EDIT: tested my A/C button today and it does in fact bump my idle even though the compressor is not being engaged... I wonder why I never noticed this before and thought that it did not do that anymore.

                          So forget what I said earlier about no idle bump, but that part number is for the aux fan switch is still good :P
                          electric fan draws a lot of power, it power bumps the idle to increase output from the alternator. Mine does it too...

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