Colorado general chat...

[Bimmerman325i]

Going poorly. They haven't released the price on the Abarth so I have no idea. Abarth, GTI, Golf R, WRX, BRZ, who knows?

Brad, this might make the choice harder. BRZ starts at 24k.

http://m.jalopnik.com/5864550/subaru-brz-pricing-starts-at-24000

[Eric]

Brad, this might make the choice harder. BRZ starts at 24k.

http://m.jalopnik.com/5864550/subaru...tarts-at-24000

nice price point!

[Bimmerman325i]

nice price point!

I know, right? I keep saying it, but I think this car will be a perfect post-grad DD/funmobile.

27k for the fully loaded version with alcantara/leather seats (like Evo 9 MR), 16/15" brakes under 17" wheels, standard LSD/6spd....it just sounds awesome.

/nerdgasm.

[blefevre]

15/16" brakes for a car under 2,700 pounds? Is that confirmed?

[Bimmerman325i]

15/16" brakes for a car under 2,700 pounds? Is that confirmed?

Honestly I think jalopnik made a typo, 404mm brakes (16") is ridiculous under 17" wheels and for the vehicle weight.

I'm betting on 330mm max, so 13"

Still ginormous.

[Bimmerman325i]

I'm looking for reports to corroborate Jalopnik's take, but here's some stuff I found.

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/coupes/1112_2013_subaru_brz_prototype_first_drive/

Motor trend test drive

http://www.automobilemag.com/reviews/driven/1112_2013_subaru_brz/index.html

http://www.autoweek.com/article/20111202/CARREVIEWS/111209982

http://www.roadandtrack.com/tests/impressions/2013-subaru-brz-prototype

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/motoring/news/article.cfm?c_id=9&objectid=10770402

[Bishop]

Never read anything about the BRZ till now.... Kind of a bummer it's so low on horsepower

[Bimmerman325i]

Never read anything about the BRZ till now.... Kind of a bummer it's so low on horsepower

it weighs 2689lb and costs 24k.

200hp is plenty, it's not competing against mustangs for straight line performance.

It's more in line with the Miata/S2K/RX8/Mini as a brilliant momentum car.

[325ix]

I really want that! The BRZ version looks so nice.

[325ix]

I don't like stanced cars and I like the BRZ better but, hot damn!

[Bimmerman325i]

CG? No way that's real..... yet

and why does it have a yota badge

The car shape is real, the drop/etc is photoshopped.

You need to do more reading, the car was codeveloped by Subaru and Toyota, and they each will be selling a version. Subaru did the engineering, Toyota the exterior design and product planning; I'd buy a Subaru version since they did the lion's share of the work imo.

[Bishop]

Yup, I reread what was posted and deleted my post, nice quote grab though lol...

[Bimmerman325i]

Yup, I reread what was posted and deleted my post, nice quote grab though lol...

haha no worries. I'm the resident bored internet ninja.

[blefevre]

It sucks that we get the Scion and not the Toyota. I would have bought the Toyota just because of their FR heritage. The only real option is the scooby doo brrrrrrrz because who wants to own a Scion?

[Bimmerman325i]

It sucks that we get the Scion and not the Toyota. I would have bought the Toyota just because of their FR heritage. The only real option is the scooby doo brrrrrrrz because who wants to own a Scion?

How important is a brand name though? Scion = toyota in my mind...

I'm all on board for the Scoob, but I'm a subaru nut so that's to be expected.