Boulder e30 in need of some troubleshooting

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  • colorado_cabrio
    E30 Modder
    • Sep 2009
    • 891

    #1

    Boulder e30 in need of some troubleshooting

    Hey guys -

    So the cabrio started doing something troubling yesterday, and I'd love and input or advice. Or if you wanna swing by and grab a beer.

    On start the engine feels like it's "chugging", there is a definite loss of power, and when it gets warm it's started smoking out the tailpipe. Before yesterday the car has run like a top, with no symptoms for ever.

    I've checked the wires, and about to check the plugs and O2 sens.

    It could be a miss, but I'm not sure never heard one on a six (much easier for me to hear and recognize the miss on 4 cylinders)

    AFM? Vacuum leak? Head gasket =(

    And I realize that the smoke is the biggest concern...:sad:


    And advice, on better troubleshooting. I'm trying to eliminate anything simple or straight forward, before taking down to Cal.

    Cheers
    Brent
    Last edited by colorado_cabrio; 04-10-2010, 09:17 AM.
  • stoliver54
    Grease Monkey
    • Apr 2004
    • 312

    #2
    What color is the smoke?

    Wheelgap is like a vagina. The more fingers you get in, the worse it is.
    Originally posted by Chachi
    young chicks are not keepers. they are for fun.

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    • Atreus
      E30 Mastermind
      • Sep 2008
      • 1846

      #3
      check engine light come on?

      if so, have you done the stomp test?

      any changes to your car recently? any maintenance you *could* have fudged up on?

      heating/cooling issues?

      smoke out of exhaust, what color is it? white/black death smoke, does it smell sweet?

      when was your HG/timing belt/cooling system last worked on?


      sounds like a vacuum leak+running rich, but i may be wrong...
      1991 325iC - Mauritsblau sumthin metallic blue. DEAD
      1992 525i - Silber sumthin sumthin metallic- Rolling again, needs suspension/wheels/brakes/paint.... Fuck you A4S310R; BEAT YOU.
      1989 325i - Cirrusblau Metallic sumthin sumthin-project - trying to clean up the interior(done), then the body, then a 5spd, then suspension, then..... - [Stolen :| ]
      1991 325iC - Calypsorot Metallic
      1994 540i - Granitsilber

      Originally posted by scabzzzz
      I've had blunts cock in my mouth, but I'm not gay.

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      • iamsam
        Advanced Member
        • Jun 2008
        • 172

        #4
        M20 or M42?

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        • stoliver54
          Grease Monkey
          • Apr 2004
          • 312

          #5
          I am guessing m20 by his comment on hearing a misfire.

          OP- Have you checked the plugs?

          Wheelgap is like a vagina. The more fingers you get in, the worse it is.
          Originally posted by Chachi
          young chicks are not keepers. they are for fun.

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          • colorado_cabrio
            E30 Modder
            • Sep 2009
            • 891

            #6
            Engine is m20. Smoke is white, doesn't smell like coolant, more like oil. Timing was performed 30k ago, but by PO not me.

            No CEL, no stomp test. No recent engine work, so nothing to back track. Only think is a K&N, so maybe I fouled the MAF or the like with oil?

            I am worried about some valve timing damage, any hint on what the symptoms of that would be?

            I was just trying to pull the plugs, but my normal spark plug socket doesn't seem the right size; realized I have a 5/8 vs 13/16. So I'm headed to McGuckins to get the right socket.
            Last edited by colorado_cabrio; 04-10-2010, 12:08 PM.

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            • clarkkey594
              E30 Mastermind
              • Feb 2010
              • 1724

              #7
              Timing belt could have jumped a tooth somehow.
              89 325i (Sold)
              95 M3 (Track Car in Progress)
              2001 4runner (DD)

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              • Atreus
                E30 Mastermind
                • Sep 2008
                • 1846

                #8
                yeah, i agree with clark.

                pull the plugs, lets see whats goin on...
                1991 325iC - Mauritsblau sumthin metallic blue. DEAD
                1992 525i - Silber sumthin sumthin metallic- Rolling again, needs suspension/wheels/brakes/paint.... Fuck you A4S310R; BEAT YOU.
                1989 325i - Cirrusblau Metallic sumthin sumthin-project - trying to clean up the interior(done), then the body, then a 5spd, then suspension, then..... - [Stolen :| ]
                1991 325iC - Calypsorot Metallic
                1994 540i - Granitsilber

                Originally posted by scabzzzz
                I've had blunts cock in my mouth, but I'm not gay.

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                • colorado_cabrio
                  E30 Modder
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 891

                  #9
                  Ok pulled the plugs.

                  All are worn, and filthy. The plug for the cylinder closest to the front of the car had wet oil on it...

                  Did a little searching: Valve cover gasket? PCV fouled? Rings...

                  Does anybody have a compression gauge I could borrow? Or am I on the wrong track?

                  The help is really appreciated guys ! =-)
                  Last edited by colorado_cabrio; 04-10-2010, 01:25 PM.

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                  • clarkkey594
                    E30 Mastermind
                    • Feb 2010
                    • 1724

                    #10
                    I think that you really should check your timing first. You could have a leaking valve cover gasket (it's very common) in addition to a potentially bigger issue.
                    89 325i (Sold)
                    95 M3 (Track Car in Progress)
                    2001 4runner (DD)

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                    • colorado_cabrio
                      E30 Modder
                      • Sep 2009
                      • 891

                      #11
                      Ok, so should i check the position of the timing belt? Normal process for that doesn't require removing the valve cover, right?

                      Should i basically go through the timing belt replacement procedure? Or should I start by looking under the valve cover to inspect for damage?

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                      • ZombiE30
                        E30 Addict
                        • Dec 2009
                        • 438

                        #12
                        compression tester you may be able to borrow from checker auto parts. those are easy as hell to use.
                        but the oil on the plug makes me think something more like valve stem oil seal.

                        do you have a bentley? that should give you a decent trouble shooting procedure to follow.
                        Originally posted by stoliver54
                        Aw, balls.
                        FS: assault gear....
                        http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=159253

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                        • iamsam
                          Advanced Member
                          • Jun 2008
                          • 172

                          #13
                          would the head gasket allow oil into the cylinders, or is that coolant I am thinking of?

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                          • vectorsc
                            Advanced Member
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 134

                            #14
                            Either - recommend replacing part number M20 with part number M50 or greater.

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                            • Atreus
                              E30 Mastermind
                              • Sep 2008
                              • 1846

                              #15
                              oil on the spark plug could be from a leaking/bad condition valve cover gasket, which may result in the subsequent vacuum leak, causing the hesitation/miss, and the oil is being burned off, resulting in the smoke?

                              just thinking out loud here....
                              1991 325iC - Mauritsblau sumthin metallic blue. DEAD
                              1992 525i - Silber sumthin sumthin metallic- Rolling again, needs suspension/wheels/brakes/paint.... Fuck you A4S310R; BEAT YOU.
                              1989 325i - Cirrusblau Metallic sumthin sumthin-project - trying to clean up the interior(done), then the body, then a 5spd, then suspension, then..... - [Stolen :| ]
                              1991 325iC - Calypsorot Metallic
                              1994 540i - Granitsilber

                              Originally posted by scabzzzz
                              I've had blunts cock in my mouth, but I'm not gay.

                              Comment

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